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Pawnshop Upr Gardiner st Dublin
« on: Monday 15 March 21 18:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I'm wondering would anyone have a link to identifying a pawnshop that may have existed on upper Gardiner st Dublin in the past (not to be confused with rafters which was on Lwr Gardiner st)
any help appreciated.

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Re: Pawnshop Upr Gardiner st Dublin
« Reply #1 on: Monday 15 March 21 23:47 GMT (UK) »
39 Upper Gardiner Street - there is a newspaper article about an application to open a pawn office at that address in 1883 and numerous newspaper references to it thereafter (into the 1920s at least), trading under the name of McGuinness. 


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Re: Pawnshop Upr Gardiner st Dublin
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 16 March 21 00:08 GMT (UK) »
The 1918 PO Dublin directory and calendar listing is: 39 McGuinness, Mrs. Ellen, pawnbroker. There are also a Mrs. McGuinness and a Charles J. McGuinness (electrical engineer) at no. 38, I haven't checked if related.


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Re: Pawnshop Upr Gardiner st Dublin
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 16 March 21 00:33 GMT (UK) »

... There are also a Mrs. McGuinness and a Charles J. McGuinness (electrical engineer) at no. 38, I haven't checked if related.


I have now, it's these folk at no. 38 in 1911, note Ellen's occupation:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rotunda/Gardiner_Street__Upper/33179/

And some employees living on the premises at no. 39:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rotunda/Gardiner_Street__Upper/33185/

The relevant house and building return at Form B.1. confirms that no. 38 was a Dwelling and no. 39 was a Pawn Office:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000072635/




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Re: Pawnshop Upr Gardiner st Dublin
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 16 March 21 13:41 GMT (UK) »
Grizzly 1

The Irish Times shows the following:
  For No.39
    14th April 1883 Page 8 Advert.  Some Household Furniture for Auction
     23rd April 883  Page 3   Leasehold purchased by Thomas M'Guinness who applied for a Pawnbroker's Licence     On 28th April  Page 3 A Licence was denied  but see 23rd June at Page 3
      9th August 1886  Page 3  Police Court   Thomas Crubben (Pawnbroker's Assistant) (Witness)
       19th November 1898  Page 4  Police Court    Co-operation with Police

   For No.38
     See also 23rd June 1883 Page 3      as for No.39
      25th August 1885  Page 2  Advert.    Lodgings offered
       26th August 1890   Page1 Deaths Col.    Thomas Mc Guinness           and see  25th September 1890  Page 3  Advert.  re his charitable bequests.

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Re: Pawnshop Upr Gardiner st Dublin
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 16 March 21 18:01 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all so much for the excellent reply's, I had a vauge idea that is where the pawnbroker may have been and i think i also have an old photo which show's it, the statue on the front of the building is a great guide to the address.
thank you all again.

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Re: Pawnshop Upr Gardiner st Dublin
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 16 March 21 18:08 GMT (UK) »
Dorset st to Gardiner st, the 3 balls hang over number 39

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Re: Pawnshop Upr Gardiner st Dublin
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 16 March 21 22:25 GMT (UK) »
Yes, Upper Gardiner Street intersects at no. 28 Lower Dorset Street, those premises at no. 28 had (have?) a side door opening onto Upper Gardiner Street (at no. 42 in that street), I can see a newspaper reference to William Bushe at that address.