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Offline MonicaL

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Re: Searching for Patricia
« Reply #54 on: Sunday 21 March 21 17:55 GMT (UK) »
Debra, speculative it may be...but looks really promising.

If he was the reputed father of Patricia, he would have been around 20 when she was born. Likely unmarried from what you found.

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Re: Searching for Patricia
« Reply #55 on: Monday 22 March 21 13:02 GMT (UK) »
I've been doing a bit of digging into the reasons for the 1939 note "see page 2 book 2" and found these 2 sections from the National Archives interesting.

8. What does it mean when an entry is crossed out and marked ‘See page…?’
These refer to ‘continuation entries’ where the line in the ‘postings’ column (see section 9.3) against a person’s name was full up, and a new line had to be created for any new entries.
The new line was added at the back of the enumeration book or sometimes at the back of the next book in large enumeration districts that comprised two or more books. You can browse to the page containing the continuation entry if it is in the same book; if it is in the next book you can use the browse function described in section 5.2 to go there, and then browse to the right page. However, this is very unlikely to contain any additional information.

9.4 The ‘postings’ column
Each entry in the Register extended across a double page spread. However, the accessioned digital record does not include the ‘postings’ column on the right hand page which contains various codes used for National Registration and National Health Service purposes. The National Archives does not have access to this column and the information it contains.

https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/1939-register/

The article in the link below from "Lost Cousins" also has suggestions regarding what was on the right hand page that we cannot see.  It suggests the right hand page was used for NHS codes such as when someone visited a new doctor.  As Patricia had a "continuation entry" on another page she must have had a lot of entries, maybe Patricia moved around a lot.
The Register was used by the National Health Service who continued updating the records until 1991.

https://www.lostcousins.com/newsletters2/mar16news.htm#NHS

Interesting thread Tweekymum, I hope you find Patricia.
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton

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Re: Searching for Patricia
« Reply #56 on: Monday 22 March 21 13:38 GMT (UK) »
So Jools, do you  think Patricia  died  before 1991?,  she  has  been so difficult  to find,  she  was  found  on the  ER's  in London 1964

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Re: Searching for Patricia
« Reply #57 on: Monday 22 March 21 13:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi LM, I don't think there is anything to suggest she died before 1991, I was just pointing out that the register was updated by the NHS until then when they changed to a computerised system.

She is certainly hiding herself well.
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton


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Re: Searching for Patricia
« Reply #58 on: Monday 22 March 21 14:03 GMT (UK) »
She  certainly is, would  like  to solve this  for Tweekymum,  Iike  her name

LM
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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Searching for Patricia
« Reply #59 on: Monday 22 March 21 16:06 GMT (UK) »
This might be way way out and am not sure if anyone has listed this

Patricia D Overall
birth reg March Qtr 1912
Woodbridge
MMN Overall
this child is illegitimate

Strange thing is, so far I can't find a death or marriage for her

LM
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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Searching for Patricia
« Reply #60 on: Monday 22 March 21 16:24 GMT (UK) »
This might be way way out and am not sure if anyone has listed this

Patricia D Overall
birth reg March Qtr 1912
Woodbridge
MMN Overall
this child is illegitimate

Strange thing is, so far I can't find a death or marriage for her

LM

Yes Rosie found it reply number 8 but like you she couldn't find her after that birth.
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Re: Searching for Patricia
« Reply #61 on: Monday 22 March 21 16:28 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Carol
Sorry Rosie.

Can't even find anything out about a possible parent Overall on 1911 census in Woodbridge area, a baptism would be a good idea

LM
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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Searching for Patricia
« Reply #62 on: Monday 22 March 21 16:33 GMT (UK) »
A Patricia Overall married a Jack A Harvey in Ipswich in 1933.

She seems to be in Ipswich in 1939 as Patricia D Harvey.
Added- that's the one whose middle name is Dulcie.

3 possible Harvey/ Overall births in the 30's and 40's.

Which fits with those still redacted in 1939.

An Ancestry tree has her mum as Lota Kathleen Overall ,but dad unkown.
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