Alfred Edwin Jones 1881 census

[philsearch]

Hi all, I’m hoping someone can find the above person in the 1881 census when he would have been about 3 years old. I’ve only found him on the 1911 census on family search. He was born in Panteg Dec quarter of 1878. I’ve had a dna match with a descendant of his but would like to find the Jones link that I think goes back at least another generation to tie in with mine. I have John Jones born in Llangibby in 1849 and his father dob unknown.

[rosie99]

He was born in Panteg Dec quarter of 1878.

JONES, ALFRED  EDWIN     mmn ROSSER 
GRO Reference: 1878  Dec Quarter in PONTYPOOL  Volume 11A  Page 147
 

[Brentor boy]

There is the following in 1881.
Alfred Jones (2) born Panteg in household of Joshua and Elizabeth Jones, living Panteg. Another child, Mary Ann (7), appears to have been born Sep 1874. Pontypool. Mmn Rosser.
RG11 5254/22 page 38

[philsearch]

Thank you both very much. Perhaps Joshua is the link to my John and his father William. These Welsh villages and parishes weren’t very far apart were they!

[Cas (stallc)]

Online tree has 1911 census you quote with Alfred Edwin with family his parents on this tree are Alfred & Louisa Bodeman or similar name. If tree correct unsure.

I have many Jones in my own tree, the DNA connection may not be Jones but through a spouse.  Why do you think Alfred Edwin connects to your John Jones?

Just curious

Cas

[Brentor boy]

Working from 1881 census.
Joshua Jones Mar Q 1857. Pontypool. Mmn Jacob.
1861 census.
Joshua Jones (4), born Panteg, living with siblings at Lower Race, Panteg. RG09 4010/42 page27
John  and Mary Jones living Lower Race, Panteg, with children, including Charlotte. RG09 4010/41, page26
Charlotte Jones born Jun Q 1846. Pontypool. Mmn Jacob

The names John Jones  and Mary Jacob on same page Mar Q 1845. Pontypool.

Requires more research but may be a place to start.

[philsearch]

Hi Cas, the 1911 Alfred Edwin is in Abersychan with a son Edward George. Edward is definitely the grandfather of my dna match. I’m going down the Jones line as through MyHeritage I have a cousins son who is an overwhelming match with me. That match is through my dads sister ( born Jones). MyHeritage has given me a match with Edwards granddaughter but also my cousins son as a match with her. I hope that makes sense, Phil (Jones).

[philsearch]

Brenton  boy, blimey, you could throw a blanket over these addresses. It’s so frustrating that you take a step forward and then it’s stalemate for ages.My grt grt grandfather William was dead by the time his son John got married in 1874. The marriage took place when John lived in Tredunnock and one of the witnesses was a William Skipp.

[osprey]

parish entry for marriage 
11 Feb 1845 Llandegfedd
John Jones full age bach fireman Panteague father Willliam Jones founder
Mary Jacob full age spin Panteague father James Jacob labourer
witnesses Mary Richards & Edward Thomas. Mary Jacob & Edward Thomas signed, the other 2 marked.