Author Topic: Look up Request - Feltham Area George Henry Lock b.1889  (Read 1362 times)

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Re: LOOK UP REQUEST - FELTHAM AREA
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 31 October 21 06:58 GMT (UK) »
George Henry had married Annie Elizabeth Groves in Middlesex 1959 although they already had 6 children. 

I can only see one Lock(e) / Groves child on freebmd, the one you have listed on 1939 register.

Presumably 1939 is Heath Road, Twickenham
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Re: LOOK UP REQUEST - FELTHAM AREA
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 31 October 21 09:12 GMT (UK) »
I could tell you the names and dates of the other 5 children but most of them are still alive.  Dob's are 1928,1932,1937,1941,1937 and yes 1939 is Heath Road but later addresses 75 Grove road, Twickenham Park, Saint Catherine, Middlesex in 1942 and 88 Durham road, Feltham, Middlesex in 1955
McMullen, Gleave, Kelly, Scholes, Mather, Phillips, Lock

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Re: Look up Request - Feltham Area George Henry Lock b.1889
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 31 October 21 09:52 GMT (UK) »
Were the other 5 registered as Lock or Groves
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Re: Look up Request - Feltham Area George Henry Lock b.1889
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 31 October 21 10:08 GMT (UK) »
Mostly Lock but they seemed to have used various names!
McMullen, Gleave, Kelly, Scholes, Mather, Phillips, Lock


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Re: LOOK UP REQUEST - FELTHAM AREA
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 31 October 21 16:25 GMT (UK) »

Elizabeth Ann Watson died in Manchester April 1935, I've even got a photo of her gravestone.


Is that the Elizabeth Ann Lock age 47 whose death was registered in the Jun qtr. 1935 in Manchester?

Is this her burial?

Elizabeth Ann Lock
Burial 7 Jun 1935 Manchester, Greater Manchester
Cemetery:   Southern Cemetery
Cemetery Section:   M
Grave Number:   2487
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/149652866/elizabeth-ann-lock

Do you have her death certificate ? If so, who was the informant.

Is this the same George?

George Henry Lock Age:   27
Service Date:   6 Mar 1917
Service Number:   64234
Next of Kin:   E A Lock
Relation to Airman:   Wife
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From Lancashire BMD

LOCK   George Henry   
WATSON   Elizabeth Ann   
1913   Chorlton-on-Medlock Register Office or Registrar Attended

LOCK George Eric (GRO mmn WATSON) 1914  Chorlton-on-Medlock died 1982

LOCK Victor   WATSON   1916 Chorlton-on-Medlock died 1916

LOCK Robert H(arry)   WATSON   1921 Chorlton-on-Medlock died 1992


Very strange that the births of the two sons 1936 and 1937 shows Watson as mother.


Could you give the quarter & registration districts of these two births please and also for the years 1928 & 1932 you mention at reply 28

Dec 1959 Middlesex S. marriage   
LOCK / GROAVES   

LOCK (female) Apr qtr. 1937 Brentford
mmn GROVES

LOCK (male) Jun qtr. 1941 Brentford
mmn GROAVES

Is this your Annie she has the same dob as the Annie you mention from 1939 with George & daughter?

Annie Groves
Admission Age:   7
Record Type:   Admission
Birth Date:   2 Nov 1901
Admission Date:   1908
Admission Place:   Westminster London

Annie is with her family
George H GROVES 1868 occ Stoker
Ellen 1878
Ellen 12.8.00
Millicent 10.10.04
Alfred 19.1.06
Elsie 6.2.07
Dorothy 8.3.08

GROAVES, ANNIE  ELIZABETH   mmn ECLES
GRO Reference: 1901  D Quarter in ST. GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE  Volume 01A  Page 414 Occasional Copy: A   

GROVES Annie Elizabeth born 2 Nov 1901
Baptism 19 Mar 1903 All Saints, Ennismore Gardens, Knightsbridge, London
Father:   George Henry Groves occ stoker Mother:   Ellen

LOCK Annie Elizabeth died age 92
Birth 2 Nov 1901
Registration Date:   Sep 1994
Registration District:   Hounslow

The only other thought I had as to why George didn't marry Annie Elizabeth until 1959 was perhaps his wife Elizabeth Ann was still living  ??? edit to add there is this death entry for an
Elizabeth A Lock Age: 70 Sep 1958 Wandsworth


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Re: Look up Request - Feltham Area George Henry Lock b.1889
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 31 October 21 21:20 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Ladyhawk for all the information you have found. I'm not expert at this and I see from what you have said I have not confirmed some of my findings but I will answer as best I can.
Yes, this is the Elizabeth Ann Watson burial - PHILLIPS, ANN 63 GRO Reference: 1902 M Quarter in PRESTWICH Volume 08D Page 293
Elizabeth Ann Lock 7 Jun 1935 - Plot Number MConsecrated 2487 - no I don't have death cert so maybe you are right and I have the wrong wife.
And yes you have the right George Henry Lock.  The 1936 and 1937 children I found on the electoral register for Feltham 1965.
1929 birth - 21 Feb 1929 St Pancras London, United Kingdom xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mothers maiden name WATSON GRO Reference: 1929 M Quarter in ST. PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 106
1928 birth - 1928 Chorlton xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Lock
The Annie Elizabeth Groves is the right one married to George Henry Lock b.born 2 Nov 1901 d.1993 married 1959
Perhaps I should give you a bit of background.  This is my husbands Grandfather George Henry Lock.  My husband remembers visiting his grandfather occasionally when he was about 10 yrs old with his father Robert Harry Lock.  My husband's mother refused to visit as she hated the woman she called Mrs Wilson who was the woman living with her father-in-law George.  I've yet to find the Wilson connection.
I don't know where Annie Elizabeth Groves was born or her parents.
I believed I had the right Elizabeth Ann Watson for death as she had always lived in Chorlton and the family story was that Robert Harry aged 17 and a little later Norman Lock both left home soon after mother died and George Henry moved new woman in who they didn't get along with.
Hope this clarifies a few points but realise I will have to get some certificates to clarify others.
McMullen, Gleave, Kelly, Scholes, Mather, Phillips, Lock