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Sumner and West families from Manchester, England
« on: Wednesday 17 March 21 15:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi, on researching my father's side of the family, I have found that two of his father's cousins emigrated to Australia after the death of their father.  Edith Heywood 1897 married William Sumner 1901 and emigrated to Australia sometime after her marriage in 1925.  Her sister Ethel Heywood 1899 married Jack Benjamin Stanley West in 1919 and emigrated to Australia.  I don't know if they both couples went together or separately, but Edith died in Burwood, NSW in 1958 and Ethel died in Sydney in 1972.  Unfortunately, this is the only information I have on either sister.  Their youngest brother, Frank, who was born in 1905 was taken in by my great grandfather and brought up as one of his own.  I wonder if anyone can help.  Kath

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Re: Sumner and West families from Manchester, England
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 17 March 21 15:28 GMT (UK) »
Here are the girls in 1901
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9V2-DDC

Edith in 1911 with her sister Mary Alice
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW1V-MSN

Is this the kind of information you are seeking?
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Re: Sumner and West families from Manchester, England
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 17 March 21 15:29 GMT (UK) »
Edith & William sailed on the ship Benalla from England arriving at Sydney 17th September 1925, there is also a Kenneth Heywood with them age 6. The address for all 3 is 114 Every Street, Ancoats, Manchester.


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Re: Sumner and West families from Manchester, England
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 17 March 21 15:35 GMT (UK) »
Edith & William appear to have made a journey back to England & sailed on the ship Stathnaver from Sydney arriving in London 18th June 1957. They intended staying for 4 months at 54 Old Hall Road, Sale, Cheshire. Edith's DOB 28/2/1897 & William 21/7/1901 he was an Electric Crane Driver.

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Re: Sumner and West families from Manchester, England
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 17 March 21 16:09 GMT (UK) »
Jack Benjamin Stanley West was born 2/11/1898 in Campsie New South Wales. He was a soldier in the Australian Imperial Force. He was injured in France & sent to England 9/4/1919 for RTA. As you know he married Ethel 27th June 1919. He was then sent home to Australia sailing on the Mahana from England 26/9/1919 arriving in Sydney 12/11/1919 & discharged from the force 2/2/1920 in Sydney. Ethel was on the same ship.

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Re: Sumner and West families from Manchester, England
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 17 March 21 16:10 GMT (UK) »
Their father Charles Henry Heywood died December qtr 1905 aged 39

Mother Mary Agnes (nee Fannan) died March qtr 1909
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Re: Sumner and West families from Manchester, England
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 March 21 00:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi there,

The National Archives of Australia has digitised the WWI service files for all the volunteers who served in the Australian Imperial Force in WWI. They are all easy to access online, no charge, no need to log in or register.   Here is the live link to Jack Benhamin Stanley WEST's forty page file https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=8381504   There is also a more recent file for him, but it has not yet been digitised.  The online index for that second file has his date of birth as 6 November 1898. 
https://www.naa.gov.au/explore-collection/search-people/researching-your-family

NSW BDM online index has Jack BS WEST birth registered with parents as Oscar FW and Amy M, registered in the Canterbury district - which would include more than just the suburb of Canterbury.  The reference no. is 29602/1898.   The 1898 indicates the year.   You can drill down to confirm the exact date of the event for those types of registrations on that online index. 

So from this link https://www.nsw.gov.au/topics/family-history-search
click on 'Start searching your ancestry' thus : https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search?
then click on births https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search/births?
then enter the family name (west) and first given name (jack) and scroll down to Date of Event from.
When there, enter 'from' as 01/01/1898 and 'to' as 31/12/1898. and notice his was the only birth in that name in that year.
THEN use the 'modify criteria' button ... so scroll back down to that Date of Event option....  change the 'from' to read 01/07/1898 (so second half of the year)....  and he is still there, so repeat but change 'from' to 01/10/1898, next try changing the 'from' date to read 01/11/1898. - and yes he is still there... so then try from as if 01/12/1898 - and he is no longer listed.  so far we now know he was born in November 1898. 
So keep same focus and try 02/11/1898 as the 'from', and 07/11/1898 as the 'to' and YES, he's back.  so now to check which date is the official one... - well leave the 'from' as 02/11/1898 and change the 'to' to 03/11/1898 - he's not there.   :) so try 06/11/1898 to 07/11/1898 ... he is back.  Final check ... try 07/11/1898 to 08/11/1898 - he's not there.

So his official date of birth is 6 November 1898.

Jack Benjamin Stanley West was born 2/11/1898 in Campsie New South Wales. He was a soldier in the Australian Imperial Force. He was injured in France & sent to England 9/4/1919 for RTA. As you know he married Ethel 27th June 1919. He was then sent home to Australia sailing on the Mahana from England 26/9/1919 arriving in Sydney 12/11/1919 & discharged from the force 2/2/1920 in Sydney. Ethel was on the same ship.

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Re: Sumner and West families from Manchester, England
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 March 21 07:18 GMT (UK) »
 Jack and Ethel WEST divorced.
Enter is name here.

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Re: Sumner and West families from Manchester, England
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 18 March 21 11:20 GMT (UK) »
That's a very interesting link sparrett does the USA have anything similar do you know?