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Re: Hill family Hawarden
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 20 March 21 12:24 GMT (UK) »
I've found Hannah on the 1891 census:-

Living at Storeton Lane, Storeton, Wirral, Cheshire

With parents Thomas and Sarah.  Birth year 1887, birth place Brimstage, Cheshire

Registration district   Wirral
Archive reference   RG12
Piece number   2873
Folio   107
Page   7
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Hill family Hawarden
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 20 March 21 12:33 GMT (UK) »
Fuller detail of 1891
Stoeton Lane Lower Bebington Cheshire
reg dist Wirral

Thomas Hill Head M 30 Farm Lab Queens Ferry Flintshire
Sarah Wife 29 Clatterbridge Cheshire
Thomas son 6 Clatterbridge
HANNAH daughter 4 Brimstage cheshire
Annie daughter 2 Moulton Cheshire
Charles son 5 months Storeton Cheshire
RG12 2873 107 7

so if Thomas Hill had a brother Joseph could possibly be the one who married Hannah???

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Re: Hill family Hawarden
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 20 March 21 12:34 GMT (UK) »
I've found Hannah in 1911 living here:-

Port Sunlight, Lower Bebington, Cheshire - The image says Cottage Hospital and shows Hannah (widow) as a patient working as a cleaner in soap works.  Birthplace Brimstage, Cheshire

Registration district   Wirral
Registration district number   451
Sub-district   Bebington
Sub-district number   3
Enumeration district number   5
Series   RG14
Piece number   21931
Schedule   191
Census reference   RG14PN21931 RG78PN1306 RD451 SD3 ED5 SN191
RG 78 piece number   1306



Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire


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Re: Hill family Hawarden
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 20 March 21 13:41 GMT (UK) »
Possibility for Joseph (married Hannah)with brother Thomas which would make Joseph & Hannah cousins
1881
Shotton Lane End
reg district Chester
James Hill Head M 32 ag lab Chester
 Mary wife 30 Northrop Flints
THOMAS son 9
Peter son 7
James son 5
JOSEPH son 3
William son 1
children all b Harwarden
RG11 3565 61 57

possible baptism for Joseph?
Joseph Hill
baptism 25 Nov 1877
Sealand Flints
parents James & Mary Hill
father's occ Farm Salesman


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Re: Hill family Hawarden
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 20 March 21 13:50 GMT (UK) »
From his Army records. 
He joined Royal Irish Rifles in 1897 at Belfast. Occupation   seaman . Aged 20, born Chester.  discharged 1909.
He had brothers William,  James and Peter, address Oldbank Cottages,  Queensferry,  Flintshire.
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Re: Hill family Hawarden
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 20 March 21 14:00 GMT (UK) »
1910 death. Wirral,
Joseph Hill aged 32.
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Re: Hill family Hawarden
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 20 March 21 14:34 GMT (UK) »
There seems to be a little inconsistency with ages. On his marriage certificate he states he is 28 which would give a birth year of 1878/79 and his occupation is labourer.  His father is James.  His military record is saying he was born in 1877 in Chester and his occupation was Seaman.

There is this birth record for 1877 in Chester.

HILL, JOSEPH       DAVISON 
GRO Reference: 1877  D Quarter in CHESTER  Volume 08A  Page 448

This would tie up with the baptism that Suzard found in Reply#12

His wife's details on his military records match up with the marriage certificate.

Perhaps for some unknown reason he wished to appear younger on his marriage cert.  ::)
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Hill family Hawarden
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 20 March 21 15:01 GMT (UK) »
There seems to be a little inconsistency with ages. On his marriage certificate he states he is 28 which would give a birth year of 1878/79 and his occupation is labourer.  His father is James.  His military record is saying he was born in 1877 in Chester and his occupation was Seaman.

There is this birth record for 1877 in Chester.

HILL, JOSEPH       DAVISON 
GRO Reference: 1877  D Quarter in CHESTER  Volume 08A  Page 448

This would tie up with the baptism that Suzard found in Reply#12

His wife's details on his military records match up with the marriage certificate.

Perhaps for some unknown reason he wished to appear younger on his marriage cert.  ::)

Brothers William,  James and Peter.
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Re: Hill family Hawarden
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 20 March 21 15:09 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I saw the list of brothers on his military record and Suzard has them on the 1881 census.

Parent's marriage, although it is probably not needed

Marriages Dec 1870   
DAVISON    Mary        Chester    8a   599   
HILL    James        Chester    8a   599
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire