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Trying to find Joseph Colonel Stodare - magician
« on: Saturday 20 March 21 10:04 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if you could help me. I am researching Essex Photographers and have a John Rayne/Raine (b, 1864 in Scarborough, Yorkshire) married to a Josephine Caroline Stodare (b. 1865 in Liverpool). Her father is shown as Joseph Stodare – (occupation: Actor) and mother as Elizabeth (b. 1844 in London).

The only references I can find to the Stodare name is a Joseph Colonel Stodare (b. 28 June 1831 in Liverpool – d, 22 Oct 1866). I understand he was a Victorian magician, who worked a theatre called the Egyptian Hall in London, and invented the ‘Stodare Egg’. Although most references record that he was born in Liverpool, there is reference that this name was only a stage name and he was born Jack Inglis in Scotland?
His death index is recorded under the name Joseph C Stodare and his will as Colonel Stodare.

Does anybody have any information on Joseph Colonel Stodare and if this was his birth name.
Thanking you for your assistance,
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Re: Trying to find Joseph Colonel Stodare - magician
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 20 March 21 10:24 GMT (UK) »
There's an interesting piece here :

https://geniimagazine.com/wiki/index.php?title=Colonel_Stodare

A search on Stodare in the newspapers brings up many results , including pieces about the confusion with his brother Alfred. The article linked to above suggests that Joseph was Joseph Stoddart , born in Great Salkeld , Cumberland.
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Re: Trying to find Joseph Colonel Stodare - magician
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 20 March 21 10:27 GMT (UK) »
Yes I already have this information.
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Re: Trying to find Joseph Colonel Stodare - magician
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 20 March 21 10:35 GMT (UK) »
Well I do apologize for giving info that you already have  ???
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Re: Trying to find Joseph Colonel Stodare - magician
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 20 March 21 16:36 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the effort Christine. Takes time to look this stuff up...

I know that because I just spent way to much of my morning lsearching the GRO for Caroline Stodare in 1865 born Liverpool. Not there. There is this entry though:

 STOTTER, CAROLINE        COLEMAN     
GRO Reference: 1865  J Quarter in UXBRIDGE UNION  Volume 03A

Caroline's mother is Elizabeth Coleman perhaps?

Died at age 35. Quite young.

I take it you've seen his picture and grave here:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/10591/colonel-stodare

1881 widow lives with daughter:

 Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Elizabeth Stodare
Head
Female
36
Westminster, Surrey, England
Josephine Stodare
Daughter
Female
16
Lpool, Lancashire, England

From his will:
Death date:  22 Oct 1866

Beneficiary's Name:
John Mitchell
Second Beneficiary's Name:
George Edward Forrest


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Re: Trying to find Joseph Colonel Stodare - magician
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 20 March 21 16:58 GMT (UK) »
There is this baptism
Josephine Caroline Stodart
22nd May 1864
Liverpool St Jude
Joseph & Elizabeth
Joseph was a builder
abode Fairclough Lane

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Re: Trying to find Joseph Colonel Stodare - magician
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 20 March 21 17:05 GMT (UK) »
I can't find that corresponding 1864 birth on GRO.  Maybe some are just missing.

Colonel Stodare definitely goes by Joseph on his death cert:

London, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-2003
Joseph Colonel Stodare

died: 22 Oct 1866 • 5 Springfield Terrace, Kentish Town, Middlesex, England

Father:   Joseph Stoddart
Mother:   Priscilla Woods

Brother John Stoddart's birth in 1841 showing mom's maiden-name:

     Name:    Mother's Maiden Surname:
   STODDART, JOHN        WOODS     
GRO Reference: 1843  M Quarter in PENRITH UNION  Volume 25  Page 136

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22 Oct 1866  Joseph Stodare lived at the Egyptian Hall, Piccadilly, Middlesex, England
Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.

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Re: Trying to find Joseph Colonel Stodare - magician
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 20 March 21 17:46 GMT (UK) »
Widow Elizabeth Stodare:

Residence
1891 • Aldrington, Sussex, England
Age: 47; Relation: Head

Residence
1901 • Maldon St Peter, Essex, England

Age: 57; Relation: Mother-in-law

Death of Joseph's wife Elizabeth in 1930:

    Name:    Age at Death (in years): 
   STODARE, ELIZABETH        89 
GRO Reference: 1930  D Quarter in BLEAN  Volume 02A  Page 1195

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Talk of John Rayne -photograher , husband of Josephine:

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=631478.0
Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.

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Re: Trying to find Joseph Colonel Stodare - magician
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