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Re: Trying to find Joseph Colonel Stodare - magician
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 20 March 21 18:57 GMT (UK) »
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Great Salkeld, Cumberland
parents Joseph & Priscilla
Joseph 30th June 1831
Alfred 12th June 1840
Family in Liverpool by 1841 census
Alfred on census
1871 Travelling actor born Cumberland
1881 Professional conjurer born Penrith, Cumberland
1891 no occupation born Cumberland

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Re: Trying to find Joseph Colonel Stodare - magician
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 20 March 21 19:06 GMT (UK) »
There appears to be an 1861 census entry in Midlothian for Colonel Stodare. I don't have Ancestry access, just wondering what it says?
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Rodway London 19-20c
Kirk London/Brum/Coventry/London 19c
Blower Warwicks 19c
Syrett/Brewer/Cranwell London 19c
Punter Herts/London 19c
Whitrow/Hutchings/Leeworthy/Goldsworthy/May - Devon 19-20c

Stoodley Dorset/Hants/Wilts 18-20c
Cooper/Clark Broughton, Hants 18c
Moody - East Dean/Sherfield English Hants 18/19c
White  Aspull/Wigan, Lancs 19-20c
West/Angel/Johnson/Clark  S. Wilts 19-20c
Edwards  Wardour/Ansty, Wilts 19c

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Re: Trying to find Joseph Colonel Stodare - magician
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 20 March 21 19:12 GMT (UK) »
I believe this is Alfred Stodare mentioned above:

Coventry Rd Bell Inn 1891

https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5beca66cf4040b7a228b1eba/alfred-stodare-1891-leicestershire-market-harborough-1840-?locale=en

It was mentioned earlier that Joseph supposedly lived in the Egyptian Hall , Piccadilly in 1861... but who knows...

Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.

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Re: Trying to find Joseph Colonel Stodare - magician
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 20 March 21 19:17 GMT (UK) »
1861 death from SP
   
JOSEPH COLONEL STODARE
   
Age:0
Mother: LORD
1861
685/2 137
St Andrew (Edinburgh)

You got to think this must be some kind of a relative of the other same named man.

Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.

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Re: Trying to find Joseph Colonel Stodare - magician
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 20 March 21 19:24 GMT (UK) »
Young Street, Edinburgh

Colonal Stodare lodger 28 b 1833 England   Conjurer
Elizabeth Stodare wife 17 b 1844 England

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Re: Trying to find Joseph Colonel Stodare - magician
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 20 March 21 19:29 GMT (UK) »
On SP site the only thing that comes up for surname Stodare under any spelling is that death at birth...

What spelling were you seeing for that Midlothian census listing in 1861?

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Pardon me , I see it now.... I think.

   
COLONA STODARD
1861
M
28
Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.

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Re: Trying to find Joseph Colonel Stodare - magician
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 20 March 21 19:31 GMT (UK) »
There is this from Freebmd:

Elizabeth Lord - Birth Sep 1843 Qtr - Westminster - 1 429

It would need cross-checking with any deaths
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Rodway London 19-20c
Kirk London/Brum/Coventry/London 19c
Blower Warwicks 19c
Syrett/Brewer/Cranwell London 19c
Punter Herts/London 19c
Whitrow/Hutchings/Leeworthy/Goldsworthy/May - Devon 19-20c

Stoodley Dorset/Hants/Wilts 18-20c
Cooper/Clark Broughton, Hants 18c
Moody - East Dean/Sherfield English Hants 18/19c
White  Aspull/Wigan, Lancs 19-20c
West/Angel/Johnson/Clark  S. Wilts 19-20c
Edwards  Wardour/Ansty, Wilts 19c

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Re: Trying to find Joseph Colonel Stodare - magician
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 20 March 21 19:38 GMT (UK) »
1861 is Colonal Stodare, transcription only
colonal is as shown
from FMPast

1911 for Elizabeth shows 2 children both dead

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Re: Trying to find Joseph Colonel Stodare - magician
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 20 March 21 19:39 GMT (UK) »
1861 they lived not in the Egyptian Hall but at St. Andrews as pointed out above!

Joseph Colonel Stodare was about 28
Elizabeth his wife was about 17
They lost a child at birth  named after father same year.
 

ELIZABETH STODARD
   
1861
F
17
685/2 6/ 20
St Andrew
Midlothian

COLONA STODARD
1861
M
28

Other then the child of same name that died in 1861...I do not see any other person, child or otherwise as living with them in 1861.
Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.
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