Jeffry Family.

[JoanneT]

Hi,

I'm hoping that someone can help me to fill in some gaps in my family tree.  I started researching at the end of last year, and just this week I have discovered a potentially Romany line, but I am getting stuck with finding information.

This is what I know so far;

My Great Grandmother is Unity Holland (1892 - 1979)

Her parents were Joseph Holland (1841 - 1905) and Esther Jeffry 1852 - 1929)

I believe that Esther's Mother was Jane Wells (1828 - 1898), and her Father was Thomas Jeffry (1828 - Unknown).  I did find a 1851 Census listing Thomas, Jane and Esther's older Siblings; Mark, Lucy and Benjamin. (All of the children were born in different places, but I can't find any birth records).  Esther was born in 1852, so obviously wasn't listed on the Census.  I did find a possible birth record with the Mothers Maiden Name of Wells.

Well, the 1851 Census says they were living in a tent, and referred to as Egyptians.  They were in Larneath, Cornwall.

I just wondered if anyone recognises the names, or could point me in the right direction. 

I have had a DNA test through 23andMe and I have uploaded my raw data to Gedmatch.  So, if anyone thinks they have a link to my family I am happy to share my Gedmatch kit no.

Thank you in advance.

Joanne

[CaroleW]

Welcome to Rootschat

Unity’s birth reg shows surname as Hollands and mothers maiden name as Jeff

Mary Jane Odessa was also registered as Hollands - mmn Jefe

[manukarik]

There are too many websites to list for support in Romany and Traveller People History.

The starting place is often given as:
http://rtfhs.org.uk/

But there are many other sites, some are listed here:
https://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/tutorials/am-i-descended-from-gypsies/

If you do a search on the rootschat website with the keywords you'll find previous discussion about Romany/Traveller ancestry.

Here's wishing you all the best in your search!

[CaroleW]

Joseph died Dec qtr 1904 aged 58 so possible birthyear 1845/6

Esther’s death reg shows her as Esther J which I thought at first was for Jeffreys   No marriage found for her & Joseph but there is this birth

Esther Jessie Jeffry March qtr 1852 St Austell 5c 151 - mmn Wells

[osprey]

1881 census for widowed Jane in South Petherton, with daughter Phoebe

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q276-4KX6

[osprey]

Esther in South Petherton as well

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFJL-NB5

[osprey]

I see from your other post that you think Jane's father may be a Benjamin Wells.

There are some baptisms in Dorset to a Benjamin Wells that could be of interest
26 March 1830 Wooton Fitzpaine Lucy daughter of Benjamin, razor grinder, & Mary
21 Oct 1832 Abbotsbury Unity dau of Benjamin, gipsy, & Mary
5 April 1835 Shipton Gorge Charles son of Benjamin, razor grinder, and Hannah
17 Oct 1848 Poorstock Amelia daughter of Benjamin, gipsey, and Mary
in Devon
6 Sept 1851 Farway Jasper son of Benjamin, gipsy, and Ann Joel

1861 census for Benjamin & Ann
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M76L-FH9

1871 in South Petherton
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFJL-5TL

1881 in South Petherton, enumerated next but one to Jane & Phoebe
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q276-4K83

1891
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WP5C-RW2

Burials in South Petherton
20 Jan 1892 Benjamin Wells age 85
2 Dec 1897 Ann Wells age 86

[JoanneT]

Thank you everyone for helping out, definitely helped to point me in the right direction!