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Downham Marriage Look Up for John Tomkins 1897
« on: Sunday 21 March 21 10:46 GMT (UK) »
Hello

I am trying to find any information on John Tomkins.

All I have is his marriage

Elizabeth Lilly McCready and John Tomkins
Mar Q 1897
Downham, Norfolk
Volume:   4b
Page:   519

On Ancestry some members have him as being killed in the Boer War in  1901, being in the 2nd Battalion of the East Kent regiment, but there is nothing to back this up.
So I thought that, with the marriage being the one solid fact, I would start with that.

I was wondering if anyone has access to the records for the Downham parish which give occupation , age and fathers name, please!
Mayhew,Birch,Coates,Norman - Suffolk
Masters - Somerset
Richardson, Masters, Langridge, Dyer, Chambers - Sussex
Dyer, Luscombe, Hurrell - Devon
Chambers - Brecon
Lambden, Hawkins - Berkshire
Biggs, Cooper, Druce, Hedges, Haywood, Francis,Ward, Skidmore, Pinfold, Dorn, Gardener, Hopgood - Oxfordshire
Francis, Clarke - Lambeth/Surrey
Rowland, Emmett, Lockhart - Southwark/Middlesex
Simpson, Exall, Mann, Frisby,  - Kent
Ward, Teasdale, Smalwood - Yorkshire
Tomkins, Bayliss - Warwickshire

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Re: Downham Marriage Look Up for John Tomkins 1897
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 21 March 21 10:58 GMT (UK) »
Downham registration district covers lots of parishes
https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/downham.html

Do you have his wife in 1901
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Re: Downham Marriage Look Up for John Tomkins 1897
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 21 March 21 11:20 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Rosie...yes, I do...
Elizabeth Tompkins
Age
28
Estimated Birth Year
1873
Relation to Head
Sister
Gender
Female
Birth Place
Lynn, Norfolk, England
Civil parish
Newington
Ecclesiastical parish
Holy Trinity
County/Island
London
Registration district
Southwark
Sub-registration district
Trinity, Newington
ED, institution, or vessel
02
Piece
371
Folio
39
Page number
31
Household schedule number
207

With daughters, Helen and Elsie.
Mayhew,Birch,Coates,Norman - Suffolk
Masters - Somerset
Richardson, Masters, Langridge, Dyer, Chambers - Sussex
Dyer, Luscombe, Hurrell - Devon
Chambers - Brecon
Lambden, Hawkins - Berkshire
Biggs, Cooper, Druce, Hedges, Haywood, Francis,Ward, Skidmore, Pinfold, Dorn, Gardener, Hopgood - Oxfordshire
Francis, Clarke - Lambeth/Surrey
Rowland, Emmett, Lockhart - Southwark/Middlesex
Simpson, Exall, Mann, Frisby,  - Kent
Ward, Teasdale, Smalwood - Yorkshire
Tomkins, Bayliss - Warwickshire


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Re: Downham Marriage Look Up for John Tomkins 1897
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 21 March 21 11:34 GMT (UK) »
Thank you,

We are not supposed to copy/paste from subscription sites I normally modify it and remove all the unnecessary information so it is easy to read  ;)

You did not mention that the census confirmed that she was widowed

1901 part transcript -  Piece 371, Folio 39 Page 31 - 146 Great Dover St, Newington
Elizabeth Tompkins   Visitor Widow28   bn Lynn, Norfolk
Elsie   Tompkins 6   bn Littleport, Cambridgeshire
Helen Tompkins   3   bn Littleport, Cambridgeshire


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Re: Downham Marriage Look Up for John Tomkins 1897
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 21 March 21 11:39 GMT (UK) »
About to say the same :)
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Downham Marriage Look Up for John Tomkins 1897
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 21 March 21 11:51 GMT (UK) »
You really need a birth certificate or baptism for Helen to confirm her fathers occupation at the time, unless he was serving when he married.
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Re: Downham Marriage Look Up for John Tomkins 1897
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 21 March 21 11:57 GMT (UK) »
TOMKINS, HELEN  MARGARET mmn MACREADY** 
GRO Reference: 1898  M Quarter in ELY  Volume 03B  Page 549

Births Mar 1895
Macready    Elsie Kathleen Ely 3b   568
(cant seem to find this GRO)

Cant see anything on line for the Marriage.
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Downham Marriage Look Up for John Tomkins 1897
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 21 March 21 12:00 GMT (UK) »
I see that Helen Margaret was in a childrens home in later years, this web page indicates that it was a home for children who were orphans of Soldiers, Sailors and Marines
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/WandsworthVictoriaGirls/
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Re: Downham Marriage Look Up for John Tomkins 1897
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 21 March 21 20:09 GMT (UK) »
We are not supposed to copy/paste from subscription sites I normally modify it and remove all the unnecessary information so it is easy to read  ;)

Ooopppp...sorry! 
Thank you Trish1120 and yes, Rosie99...that certainly lends credence to the Boer War casualty story.
Many thanks
Mayhew,Birch,Coates,Norman - Suffolk
Masters - Somerset
Richardson, Masters, Langridge, Dyer, Chambers - Sussex
Dyer, Luscombe, Hurrell - Devon
Chambers - Brecon
Lambden, Hawkins - Berkshire
Biggs, Cooper, Druce, Hedges, Haywood, Francis,Ward, Skidmore, Pinfold, Dorn, Gardener, Hopgood - Oxfordshire
Francis, Clarke - Lambeth/Surrey
Rowland, Emmett, Lockhart - Southwark/Middlesex
Simpson, Exall, Mann, Frisby,  - Kent
Ward, Teasdale, Smalwood - Yorkshire
Tomkins, Bayliss - Warwickshire