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Place of birth Mexico or Poland
« on: Monday 22 March 21 00:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Rootschaters,

 My paternal Grandmother's family apparently originate from Poland.

i have no real information about them other than names as conflicting information off a number of Family trees...

so what i know is  Gt Grandma: Adeline Emilie Ottilie Schadowesky  {Schadowski}

 DoB 1845.

Birth place 1.   Pom, Chalehihuitán, Chiapas, Mexico.

or Place 2.  laurenburg, Rhein-Lahn-Kreis, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany
or place 3. Laurneburg, Herzogtum, Laurenburg, Schleswig-Holstein, Germany.

parents: Father: Schovski Shadowski(y)   Mother:  Pilnie Wischovofske.

I know #1 is a real place in Mexico.  Today's population 214 persons.  So a very small place.

Question. Could this child have been actually born there but the birth recorded in some German /Polish record kept there at the time. 

Which or the other two would be the better or correct record.

Then how do I find out about her parents. 

Any Ideas would be very helpful and thanks for reading.
Regards
Essnell

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Re: Place of birth Mexico or Poland
« Reply #1 on: Monday 22 March 21 10:13 GMT (UK) »
Have you tried searching every relevant census.....
You might strike lucky and find country of birth on one perhaps??
BORCHARDT in Poland/Germany, BOSKOWITZ in Czechoslovakia, Hungary + Austria, BUSS in Baden, Germany + Switzerland, FEKETE in Hungary + Austria, GOTTHILF in Hammerstein + Berlin, GUBLER, GYSI, LABHARDT & RYCHNER in Switzerland, KONIG & KRONER in Germany, PLACZEK, WUNSCH & SILBERBERG in Poland.

Also: ROWSE in Brixham, Tenby, Hull & Ramsgate. Strongman, in Falmouth. Champion. Coke. Eame/s. Gibbons. Passmore. Pulsever. Sparkes in Brixham & Ramsgate. Toms in Cornwall. Waymoth. Wyatt.

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Re: Place of birth Mexico or Poland
« Reply #2 on: Monday 22 March 21 11:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mowsehowse,

  No , I haven't and that is another issue I can read very little German and as for Polish... totally out of luck there.

I'll give it a go .  Probably only get Australian ones. 
Thanks for the idea though

Regards Essnell

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Re: Place of birth Mexico or Poland
« Reply #3 on: Monday 22 March 21 12:04 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Place of birth Mexico or Poland
« Reply #4 on: Monday 22 March 21 12:09 GMT (UK) »
... Adeline Emilie Ottilie Schadowesky  {Schadowski}
 DoB 1845.
Birth place 1.   Pom, Chalehihuitán, Chiapas, Mexico.
or Place 2.  laurenburg, Rhein-Lahn-Kreis, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany
or place 3. Laurneburg, Herzogtum, Laurenburg, Schleswig-Holstein, Germany.

parents: Father: Schovski Shadowski(y)   Mother:  Pilnie Wischovofske.

I know #1 is a real place in Mexico.  Today's population 214 persons.  So a very small place.

Question. Could this child have been actually born there but the birth recorded in some German /Polish record kept there at the time. 

Which or the other two would be the better or correct record.

Then how do I find out about her parents.

Where did you get the 3 possible places of birth from? I do see an online tree that gives the place of her birth as Laurenburg but not exactly as you have listed #2 and #3.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Place of birth Mexico or Poland
« Reply #5 on: Monday 22 March 21 12:46 GMT (UK) »
Oz census may give you conclusive with luck.... l don't know the categories.
If you can narrow it down that way, you can be more specific in your searching and there is always help at hand here, and on fb groups.
BORCHARDT in Poland/Germany, BOSKOWITZ in Czechoslovakia, Hungary + Austria, BUSS in Baden, Germany + Switzerland, FEKETE in Hungary + Austria, GOTTHILF in Hammerstein + Berlin, GUBLER, GYSI, LABHARDT & RYCHNER in Switzerland, KONIG & KRONER in Germany, PLACZEK, WUNSCH & SILBERBERG in Poland.

Also: ROWSE in Brixham, Tenby, Hull & Ramsgate. Strongman, in Falmouth. Champion. Coke. Eame/s. Gibbons. Passmore. Pulsever. Sparkes in Brixham & Ramsgate. Toms in Cornwall. Waymoth. Wyatt.

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Re: Place of birth Mexico or Poland
« Reply #6 on: Monday 22 March 21 14:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi Agahadowey and others,

 I found the place names on the searches trees. There are lots there and several with the first and also both the others which were a little different to the one you have quoted. 
  I'll double check and make sure they are correct. 

Now I took the advice a mowsehowse and tried to find census - nothing came up. 
 
I then did some thing odd - googled the name and I got 3 answers.  One was to a tree for people in Uzbekistan. That hit a note.  I have not long done my DNA for a completely different reason than this, and there is one from this state. I have contacted this person. Worth a try.  Unfortunately I suspect I will need to know a Russian dialect.  This could possibly lead to Adeline's parents .  maybe. 

Shaun J,  Thank you for the grave Link. That is really great.Yes another variation. Makes one wonder. 

I am still wondering why 3 or 4 of the trees have this Mexican place of birth.

Thanks everyone , I'll  keep you posted on progress.
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Essnell

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Re: Place of birth Mexico or Poland
« Reply #7 on: Monday 22 March 21 18:06 GMT (UK) »

In 1877 the family had come from Lantow (now: Letowo) in Kr Lauenburg, Pommern.
NB I suspect that the couple were married here abt 1870/1.

In those days most people didn’t move around a lot, so couldn’t “Sluschow” (per Adeline’s DC) actually be Schluschow/Slus(z)ow (now: Sluszewo). This place is only abt 14 kms from Lantow and it was also in Kr Lauenburg.

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Re: Place of birth Mexico or Poland
« Reply #8 on: Monday 22 March 21 22:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi TreeSpirit,

Thankyou for the 1877 information and yes that is very likely to be the case.  My knowledge of this area in this detail is quite limited.
I think Pommern was one of the Eastern Prussian States?  and probably where Poland is today? or further northeast.

Thank you for this is helpful.

Essnell.