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Re: Place of birth Mexico or Poland
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 23 March 21 02:05 GMT (UK) »
Unfortunately I'm no specialist and these places were/are only small villages, i.e. the right area for a "landmann" .... The following is my best effort (but might not be perfect as there can be duplicate names around the country)

However I realised that there actually were two Lantow's in Pommerania!:

If you want to look them up in Google Maps, wiki mentions the coordinates (important forthe correct modern versions):
So for Sluzewo enter: 5439′42″N 183′57″E (it will translate to Słuszewo 7, 84-251)
For Letowo #1 enter: 5442′51″N 1754′32″E (it will translate to Łętowo 20, 84-210)

Letowo # 2 is 5416′55″N 1648′55″E (Łętowo, 76-124, Poland) and just over 100ks from Sluzewo, so a less likely option

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Re: Place of birth Mexico or Poland
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 23 March 21 02:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi Essnell

In 1877 Carl Kopitke and Adeline Schadowski (sic - I'm looking at an index, it should read Schadowska) registered a son Otto Herman Albert in the Żelazna registration district in Pomorskie (Pomeranian region in northern Poland).   This would tie in with son Hermann, 49, on Adeline's death cert.  All the mothers are listed under their maiden names in these records.

Lauenburg is now Lębork.

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Sussex, Burwash/Somerset/South London: PANKHURST/FABLING/GREEN/KING/PARROT/POPE/PEMBROKE
Notts/Leics/London: POLLARD/BELAND/FELLS/MORRISON/MARYSON/CLARKE
Northants: MARRIOT/T
Suffolk: LINGLY/LINGLEY/LINDLY/LINDLEY/ SEAGER /SIGGER/SEGGAR/VINCE
Gloucs: WINDOW Glamorgan: JENKINS Cardiganshire: JONES
Poland: OZIEMKIEWICZ France: LINETTE

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Re: Place of birth Mexico or Poland
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 23 March 21 02:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi TreeSpirit,

Expert or not Wow and thank you.  I shall look them up shortly.  The places were small and I suppose they still are.
 On that Cert from ShaunJ  -Schivoski Schadowsky  was a Tailor - thus he made clothing.
 I am wondering if that is of any significance. doubt it though.

I have not found anything else myself so a big thank you for all the references.   

Essnell


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Re: Place of birth Mexico or Poland
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 23 March 21 02:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gaie,

Thank you for looking up those indexes.   Yes Otto Hermann was her son.  The family eventually immigrates to Australia.

How far back do those records go?  I would like to get Adeline's birth if possible. She was born in 1845. Her mother being Pilnie Wischovofske.  It might help explain why some have this Mexican birth place.
Thanks ever so much

Essnell

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Re: Place of birth Mexico or Poland
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 23 March 21 03:27 GMT (UK) »
The village Zelasen (now Zelazno) was just a couple of kms up the road from Lantow (#1), so at least we seem to have the right area. That's already a good start ..

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Re: Place of birth Mexico or Poland
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 23 March 21 04:58 GMT (UK) »
In 1877 Carl Kopitke and Adeline Schadowski (sic - I'm looking at an index, it should read Schadowska) registered a son Otto Herman Albert in the Żelazna registration district in Pomorskie (Pomeranian region in northern Poland).   This would tie in with son Hermann, 49, on Adeline's death cert. 

When the family leaves Hamburg in 3 April 1877, they have
Hermine 5 => b abt 1871/2
Herman 3 => b abt 1873/4
Frederick 1 => b abt 1875 (dies at the end of the voyage)
Source: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSZY-M12M

So Otto Herman b Jan 1877 appears to have been another child who might have died before 3 april 1877





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Re: Place of birth Mexico or Poland
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 23 March 21 05:02 GMT (UK) »
PS can any one read the religion as that could help when searching for parish registers
(could it be evangelisch?)

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Re: Place of birth Mexico or Poland
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 23 March 21 06:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi TreeSpirit,

Thankyou for what you are finding on these personsi appreciate it very much.

On the birth Cert for Otto, I too would think the religion would be Evangelish. Here in Australia they were part of the Lutheran Church Community.     I cannot read much on the document but the Lutheran Religion seems to have been what the people from this area all followed.

Otto lived for many years and is recorded on the Death Certificate as the Informant to the Registery Office about the death. He was 47 when his mother died.

Yes, these are the correct family in this place. 

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Re: Place of birth Mexico or Poland
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 23 March 21 07:12 GMT (UK) »
Otto lived for many years and is recorded on the Death Certificate as the Informant to the Registery Office about the death. He was 47 when his mother died.

But where is this Otto on the 1877 outward (Hamburg) and inward (Brisbane) passenger lists?

Update: When he gets married in 1914, he's living in Kerschkow, Kr Lauenburg ...