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Beautiful writing but what does it say?!
« on: Friday 26 March 21 09:15 GMT (UK) »
I wish I was better at this!  I've got 5th May and attacked and abused ?  ??? ??? ???

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Re: Beautiful writing but what does it say?!
« Reply #1 on: Friday 26 March 21 09:25 GMT (UK) »
Not sure about the 1st word but
‘Deft (defendant) on the 5th May Inst. (instant) attacked and abused the Compt (Complainant)’
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Re: Beautiful writing but what does it say?!
« Reply #3 on: Friday 26 March 21 10:58 GMT (UK) »
Brilliant, thank you! It's amazing how understanding one or two words, then helps you make more sense of the rest of the text.

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Re: Beautiful writing but what does it say?!
« Reply #4 on: Friday 26 March 21 11:03 GMT (UK) »
Is first word 'S[ai]d'? The 'd's at ends of 'attacked' and 'abused' are different.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Beautiful writing but what does it say?!
« Reply #5 on: Friday 26 March 21 21:19 GMT (UK) »
I think the first word is a form of address followed by the event.

Sir etc.

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Re: Beautiful writing but what does it say?!
« Reply #6 on: Friday 26 March 21 22:48 GMT (UK) »
I am assuming that this is in the column headed ‘Cause of Complaint as set forth in Summons’.

Often the statement begins:
‘That the defendant ....’ and then explains the circumstances.
Or even just, ‘Defendant did ...’

Looking at my ancestor’s records they are set out like that and each of the different pages use the same format but the one posted is none of those.

Are the other complaints set out the same?
Are they more understandable with that first word?
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Re: Beautiful writing but what does it say?!
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 27 March 21 08:36 GMT (UK) »
This comes from the Ireland, Petty Session Court Registers, 1818-1919 for Mathew Sweeney
Kerry,Tralee, 1859-1860.
 
Now that I know Def is defendant and Comp is complainant and the meaning of Inst, it's easier to understand what's happened.  The long and short of the story is my 3 x GGF Matthew and "his arch ememy" Henry Shea had regular dust ups as there are many records when they make complaints against each other in court.  ;D

I strongly suspect they were related, I have strong DNA matches to the Shea's in Tralee but haven't made the connection yet.

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Re: Beautiful writing but what does it say?!
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 27 March 21 08:42 GMT (UK) »
Could the first word be 'Im' = Item often used to distinguish things in a list?

ADDED: Having looked at several of the pages of these records, first word maybe says 'For'?
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON