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Re: Daniel McPhail: Scottish Rifles WW1, REME WW2 - war records
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 30 March 21 21:21 BST (UK) »
An inquest was held as his death was sudden and unexpected (outcome - natural causes). The local newspapers of time reported on same.
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Re: Daniel McPhail: Scottish Rifles WW1, REME WW2 - war records
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 31 March 21 00:14 BST (UK) »
One of the public trees on Ancestry identifies your Daniel McPhail as a soldier who served in the Scottish Rifles, number 10290. From the Silver War Badge Roll, he enlisted in November 1908 and was discharged with wounds in July 1915. There is a surviving medical record which shows that he had been wounded in the left arm and leg. Fold 5 has a pension index card (which I haven't seen) which apparently records that he was residing in "Belfort".

Amazing, so I guess he re-enlisted in 1908? Seeing as it is a different service number.

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Just in case you don't have here is his medal card..  10290...

Good Luck with your research .
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Mark, that is incredible - thank you so much.

An inquest was held as his death was sudden and unexpected (outcome - natural causes). The local newspapers of time reported on same.

That's very interesting, how would I get access to these newspapers? Or even begin to search?

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Re: Daniel McPhail: Scottish Rifles WW1, REME WW2 - war records
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 31 March 21 09:11 BST (UK) »
An inquest was held as his death was sudden and unexpected (outcome - natural causes). The local newspapers of time reported on same.

That's very interesting, how would I get access to these newspapers? Or even begin to search?

Local newspapers can be found in the British Newspaper Archive or Irish News Archive. These are both subscription sites. FindMyPast also has access to BNA.
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/
https://www.irishnewsarchive.com/

Try Belfast Telegraph, Belfast Newsletter, Northern Whig and others etc.....


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Re: Daniel McPhail: Scottish Rifles WW1, REME WW2 - war records
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 31 March 21 12:54 BST (UK) »
PedroDino
Your very welcome glad you liked. Based on his B Star date looks like he was in 2nd Battalion... as they landed in France on the 5th Nov...
see
https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/regiments-and-corps/the-british-infantry-regiments-of-1914-1918/cameronians-scottish-rifles/

and for very detailed look at WW1 national archives and you may be able to find date when awarded the
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_War_Badge

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7352484
for     1914 Nov. - 1918 Jan.  Diary &
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7353108
for 1918 Feb. - 1919 Apr.
£3.50 each... but worth it...

If in Glasgow there is also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameronians_War_Memorial

Originals are very old from in Scotland known as The Killing Times.. 1680's...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/26th_(Cameronian)_Regiment_of_Foot

Lastly since he past away in 1945 it might be worth while checking with the MOD as he might have not claimed his ww2 medals.. unlike ww1 which were issued without.. these had to be claimed. You can find the forms at this link.. I managed to get my great grandfathers this way..

https://www.gov.uk/apply-medal-or-veterans-badge/apply-for-a-medal

All the best
Regards
Mark W

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Re: Daniel McPhail: Scottish Rifles WW1, REME WW2 - war records
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 31 March 21 13:07 BST (UK) »
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One of the public trees on Ancestry identifies your Daniel McPhail as a soldier who served in the Scottish Rifles, number 10290

Bear in mind that we can't say for sure that this soldier is your Daniel McPhail. We don't know if the owner of that public tree has evidence of it or if it is just a guess.

If your man did serve in WW1 there is a chance that his papers are still with the MoD, linked with his WW2 file.

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Re: Daniel McPhail: Scottish Rifles WW1, REME WW2 - war records
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 31 March 21 23:00 BST (UK) »
PedroDino
Your very welcome glad you liked. Based on his B Star date looks like he was in 2nd Battalion... as they landed in France on the 5th Nov...
see
https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/regiments-and-corps/the-british-infantry-regiments-of-1914-1918/cameronians-scottish-rifles/

and for very detailed look at WW1 national archives and you may be able to find date when awarded the
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_War_Badge

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7352484
for     1914 Nov. - 1918 Jan.  Diary &
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7353108
for 1918 Feb. - 1919 Apr.
£3.50 each... but worth it...

If in Glasgow there is also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameronians_War_Memorial

Originals are very old from in Scotland known as The Killing Times.. 1680's...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/26th_(Cameronian)_Regiment_of_Foot

Lastly since he past away in 1945 it might be worth while checking with the MOD as he might have not claimed his ww2 medals.. unlike ww1 which were issued without.. these had to be claimed. You can find the forms at this link.. I managed to get my great grandfathers this way..

https://www.gov.uk/apply-medal-or-veterans-badge/apply-for-a-medal

All the best
Regards
Mark W

Again, amazing, I can't thank you enough.

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One of the public trees on Ancestry identifies your Daniel McPhail as a soldier who served in the Scottish Rifles, number 10290

Bear in mind that we can't say for sure that this soldier is your Daniel McPhail. We don't know if the owner of that public tree has evidence of it or if it is just a guess.

If your man did serve in WW1 there is a chance that his papers are still with the MoD, linked with his WW2 file.



So this IS him, I got the free 1 week Fold3 membership with ancestry and his pension letter has him residing in "Belfort" which when you actually look at it says Belfast - which is where he moved to!

You have all been a massive help guys, thank you so much :)