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Re: RN death for Robert Hugh Douglas Stuart BOGLE RN born 15 MARCH 1875 ?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 31 March 21 10:25 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for all these excellent leads and for the marriage and death.

I presume that I have the wrong man on the 1901 census born in TRICOMALIE CEYLON.


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Re: RN death for Robert Hugh Douglas Stuart BOGLE RN born 15 MARCH 1875 ?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 31 March 21 10:38 BST (UK) »
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I presume that I have the wrong man on the 1901 census born in TRICOMALIE CEYLON.

That is your man. He was a Lieutenant on HMS Terrible at that time ( " troublesome and utterly untrustworthy")
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Re: RN death for Robert Hugh Douglas Stuart BOGLE RN born 15 MARCH 1875 ?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 31 March 21 10:42 BST (UK) »
Per newspaper announcements in March 1875 he was born at Nervi, near Genoa, Italy.

"On the 15th inst, at Nervi, near Genoa, Italy, Ellen Victoria, the wife of Archibald Bogle, Esq., captain Royal Navy, of a son"
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Re: RN death for Robert Hugh Douglas Stuart BOGLE RN born 15 MARCH 1875 ?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 31 March 21 17:12 BST (UK) »
At Merges, Switzerland, on the 9th May 1926, Lieut-Commander Robert Hugh Bogle R. N. second son of the late Rear-Admiral Archibald George Bogle.

(The Scotsman 15 May 1926)

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Re: RN death for Robert Hugh Douglas Stuart BOGLE RN born 15 MARCH 1875 ?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 31 March 21 18:38 BST (UK) »
Shaun,
Many many thanks!
I am still a little puzzled why his birthplace is usually given as Nervi, near Genoa, Italy but in 1901 given as TRICOMALIE CEYLON.
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I will now see what can be found about the Swiss family of his wife, Pauline, daughter of John Belschner, of Zurich.
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BENNETT,
BRETT, Sligo
CARNEGIE,
CROCKFORD, Hampshire.
ELLIOT,
GAUNTLETT, Worldwide
HEAL, HEALE, HELE, Chew Magna, Somerset
HENRY, Sligo
MABEY, Dorset
POPE, London docklands,
STANDERWICK, Somerset,
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Re: RN death for Robert Hugh Douglas Stuart BOGLE RN born 15 MARCH 1875 ?
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 31 March 21 18:48 BST (UK) »
Bogle, old Glasgow gentry, merchants & slave-owners, so Govan spot-on!

Skoosh.

Skoosh,
many thanks for your hint that this BOGLE family might be rewarding to explore.  Let's hope their records are in good shape!
Bogle family of Bogleshole, Shettleston and Daldowie
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F16822

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BENNETT,
BRETT, Sligo
CARNEGIE,
CROCKFORD, Hampshire.
ELLIOT,
GAUNTLETT, Worldwide
HEAL, HEALE, HELE, Chew Magna, Somerset
HENRY, Sligo
MABEY, Dorset
POPE, London docklands,
STANDERWICK, Somerset,
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: RN death for Robert Hugh Douglas Stuart BOGLE RN born 15 MARCH 1875 ?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 31 March 21 22:12 BST (UK) »
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I am still a little puzzled why his birthplace is usually given as Nervi, near Genoa, Italy but in 1901 given as TRICOMALIE CEYLON.

Trincomalee is clearly incorrect. Whoever prepared that census return had 845 officers and crew to record. Perhaps they made a mistake. Perhaps they were misinformed (we know that Bogle was perceived by some of his commanding officers as troublesome, untrustworthy and lazy - perhaps a mischief maker?).
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Re: RN death for Robert Hugh Douglas Stuart BOGLE RN born 15 MARCH 1875 ?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 31 March 21 22:44 BST (UK) »
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I am still a little puzzled why his birthplace is usually given as Nervi, near Genoa, Italy but in 1901 given as TRICOMALIE CEYLON.

Trincomalee is clearly incorrect. Whoever prepared that census return had 845 officers and crew to record. Perhaps they made a mistake. Perhaps they were misinformed (we know that Bogle was perceived by some of his commanding officers as troublesome, untrustworthy and lazy - perhaps a mischief maker?).

Shaun,
Thanks for your clarity, experience and interpetation of his character!
ANSTRUTHER,Worldwide
BENNETT,
BRETT, Sligo
CARNEGIE,
CROCKFORD, Hampshire.
ELLIOT,
GAUNTLETT, Worldwide
HEAL, HEALE, HELE, Chew Magna, Somerset
HENRY, Sligo
MABEY, Dorset
POPE, London docklands,
STANDERWICK, Somerset,
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: RN death for Robert Hugh Douglas Stuart BOGLE RN born 15 MARCH 1875 ?
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 01 April 21 08:03 BST (UK) »
Black has Bogle derived from a place-name Bowgyhill in the Monklands, a Margaret Bogyll in Glasgow in 1487, Glasgow burgesses, a John Bougil at Bougleshole, Elizabeth Bogle in Sandyhills & Archibald Bogle charged with attending conventicles on Dechmonthill in 1686.

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