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Re: 1845 burial but no certificate
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 04 April 21 10:41 BST (UK) »
Surely the Chelsea one is a possibility, given that it’s close to the Thames and the age for those times is pretty good. Died and registered there but buried at ‘home’ 🤔
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Re: 1845 burial but no certificate
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 04 April 21 10:44 BST (UK) »
The burial register actually reads - On board a barge in the Rivers Thames & Medway. So perhaps on or around the canal? Chelsea seems unlikely.

What's the date of the burial - ie is it consistent with a registration in Sep qtr? And is there an alternative burial anywhere to fit the Chelsea registration?
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Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: 1845 burial but no certificate
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 04 April 21 10:45 BST (UK) »
6 July

Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
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Re: 1845 burial but no certificate
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 04 April 21 10:47 BST (UK) »
Good idea about contacting the Medway RO.

Looking at my trusty BIG Road Atlas (2017) the Rivers Thames and Medway are too far from Chelsea.

Nathaniel was buried on 6 July 1845 in Rochester.
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
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Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
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Re: 1845 burial but no certificate
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 04 April 21 10:50 BST (UK) »
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Looking at my trusty BIG Road Atlas (2017) the Rivers Thames and Medway are too far from Chelsea.

Chelsea is on the north bank of the Thames, opposite Battersea.
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Re: 1845 burial but no certificate
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 04 April 21 11:11 BST (UK) »
The burial register actually reads - On board a barge in the Rivers Thames & Medway. Perhaps on or around the canal? Chelsea seems unlikely.

The burial register records where someone lived ('Abode'), not where they died. This entry suggests that he was a waterman living on a barge who regularly plied those two rivers - which could easily include any parts of London adjacent to the river.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: 1845 burial but no certificate
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 04 April 21 11:14 BST (UK) »
I have emailed Medway RO with his details.  Will update if I get any answer.
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: 1845 burial but no certificate
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 06 April 21 16:34 BST (UK) »
Just had an email from Medway Reg Office asking me to telephone about my query! Quite a surprise as expected the usual..."office busy due pandemic etc".

On my list for tomorrow. Another update to follow.......
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: 1845 burial but no certificate
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 07 April 21 16:30 BST (UK) »
Update delayed.....a combination of the RO busy and me having to spend time trying to deal with a heating failure.

Second attempt tomorrow!
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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