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1821 Census Wellington, Shropshire
« on: Monday 05 April 21 05:58 BST (UK) »
If anyone could kindly look on 1821 census in Wellington for either, any Hughes (Hughs) family?
Especially in Aston/Aston House Farm, No 5 Aston Lane, Wellington, area. 
Really appreciated thanks in advance.
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Jim

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Re: 1821 Census Wellington, Shropshire
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 April 21 07:32 BST (UK) »
As far as I know, the censuses prior to 1841 were just number crunching exercises.

This link is about the 1821 Census.
It says :"Most Census returns between 1801 and 1831 amounted to little more than 'head counts'."
and "Names of individuals were not recorded."
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SAL/Census/Notes1821

Unless you have found something different?

Added: Well I never, found this googling.
https://www.shropshirearchives.org.uk/collections/getrecord/CCA_XP291_V_1_1
You need to register for a reader's ticket.
Can you not do that jhu?
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: 1821 Census Wellington, Shropshire
« Reply #2 on: Monday 05 April 21 16:21 BST (UK) »
Yes! that is where I read that it had been completed, @ Shropshirearchives.com, and I do have an account, but not viewable online.  You select it, set a date/time, then come in to view it after you have made an appointment :(  Im in USA

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Re: 1821 Census Wellington, Shropshire
« Reply #3 on: Monday 05 April 21 19:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Jim,

I’m 99% sure that there was quite a detailed 1821 Wellington census available. It was more than just a head count.

I have a copy on a cd that was produced by a Telford? based company or individual. If I recall correctly, the census was on one of four cd’s containing historical (Wellington area) records. Although I still have them, I can’t immediately find them.

However, they will not work on the ’modern’ computer operating systems such as Windows XP, Vista, Windows 10. When I last enquired many years ago, there were no plans to ‘upgrade’ the programs.

Regards,
Gwynne

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Re: 1821 Census Wellington, Shropshire
« Reply #4 on: Monday 05 April 21 20:45 BST (UK) »
I saw pictures of a page from the 1821 Census , it had the name, ages and even occupation.  At the Shropshirearchives.org.uk  I was even hopeful as I read "during covid, we had time to scan most of 1821" but when I search or try to view, its not available.   Most sites are still not even showing a 1821 census. https://www.freecen.org.uk/ does not have it listed.  You would think if it is on a CD, it could be online.  but i guess its all about the $$$ :(

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Re: 1821 Census Wellington, Shropshire
« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 April 21 22:43 BST (UK) »
Yes! that is where I read that it had been completed, @ Shropshirearchives.com, and I do have an account, but not viewable online.  You select it, set a date/time, then come in to view it after you have made an appointment :(  Im in USA

I see it also says
"or request a quote for a copy" on their website.

Have you tried emailing Shropshire Archives?
 archives@shropshire.gov.uk
I've always found people in Archive Offices in the uk very helpful.
I expect there will somebody there, even if the office is closed to the public because of Covid.
(I have just had some documents coped at National Records of Scotland, who are of course closed to the public at the moment. Unbelievably, it only took about 2 weeks between my initial enquiry and receiving the documents. Usually it take about 4 months! Obviously not very busy at the moment)

One of their website pages definitely says you can view (some of) the images.
On this page it shows an image of a page and says 'You can also view high resolution images of the pages for free"
https://www.shropshirearchives.org.uk/blog/more-early-census-returns/
You could tell them of the problem you're having not being able to view them and see what they say. They will be interested to know people are having problems. There is little point gong to all the effort of of putting them on their website if people cannot access them.
They might even look through the transcribed index for you which I see there is, if you ask very nicely! And then they might be able to copy the pertinent pages for you.
As I say, I've always found staff in these sort of offices very helpful.
Might be worth it.
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: 1821 Census Wellington, Shropshire
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 06 April 21 02:56 BST (UK) »
I have been persevering with this, created an account for myself, and have found you CAN view the actual images on-line! (I thought it was odd that Shropshire Archives kept saying you could view them, and it didn't seem to be clear how).

You probably got to this page (you need to sign in)
https://www.shropshirearchives.org.uk/collections/getrecord/CCA_XP291_V_1_1

Probably like you, I thought you'd get to see the census under the 'view or purchase' tab. Not so. Very confusing.
But if you go to the 'Browse this collection', it comes up with a list of all the pages.
Several pages that include 'Aston'. I clicked on the one that says 'Township of Aston', and there is indeed a Hughes family listed there.
I guess you will be searching the other pages too.

Never like to let a computer beat me!  :)

Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: 1821 Census Wellington, Shropshire
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 06 April 21 03:53 BST (UK) »
THANK YOU!!!  :)

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Re: 1821 Census Wellington, Shropshire
« Reply #8 on: Friday 28 May 21 20:36 BST (UK) »
I have been persevering with this, created an account for myself, and have found you CAN view the actual images on-line! (I thought it was odd that Shropshire Archives kept saying you could view them, and it didn't seem to be clear how).

You probably got to this page (you need to sign in)
https://www.shropshirearchives.org.uk/collections/getrecord/CCA_XP291_V_1_1

Probably like you, I thought you'd get to see the census under the 'view or purchase' tab. Not so. Very confusing.
But if you go to the 'Browse this collection', it comes up with a list of all the pages.
Several pages that include 'Aston'. I clicked on the one that says 'Township of Aston', and there is indeed a Hughes family listed there.
I guess you will be searching the other pages too.

Never like to let a computer beat me!  :)
Thanks for this  been wanting to browse that for ages
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