Nanalinz,
In the 1881 Census, there is Diliah Williams, a daughter of Samson, who is with Gravalina. Age 9, that would give a birth year of 1871/2.
1881 Census: Dyffrynclydach, Neath . Glamorganshire, Wales
Samson Williams.Head.M.33.Cwmavon, Glamorganshire
Gavelina Williams.Wife.F.33.U K, Staffordshire, England
Agnes Williams.Daughter.F.15.Caerffili, Glamorganshire
Isabella Williams.Daughter.F.12.Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire
Diliah Williams.Daughter.F.9.Swansea, GlamorganshirePenenboke Williams.Son.M.8.Aberavon, Glamorganshire
Henora Williams.Daughter.F.5.Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
Elvira Williams.Daughter.F.2.Sketty, Glamorganshire
Rebecca Williams.Daughter.F.0.Sketty, Glamorganshire
RG11 . Piece/Folio: 5344/108 . Page 32
Digital Folder: 101775467 . Microfilm: 101775467 . Image: 00746
I found this Christening:
Delilar Bethania Williams . Female
12 Jan 1871 . Abergwili, Carmarthenshire . Father: Samson Williams . Mother: Mary
Microfilm: 105125 . Originating System: ODM . Indexing Batch: C09015-1
With a mother called Mary, could this be an illegitimate child of Samson, then raised with his family? There is no GRO birth registration for her, though I cannot find registrations for most of the other children either. Abergwili is not that far from Swansea.
Some of the children:
Agnes Williams . mmn Lee . Jan-Mar 1867 . Pontypridd . Volume 11a . Page 295
Isabella Williams . mmn Lee . Oct-Dec 1868 . Pembroke . Volume 11a . Page 755
Annora Williams . mmn Lee . Jul-Sep 1876 . Llanelly . Volume 11a . Page 756
Marriage: Ellis Davies . Leah Williams Jul-Sep 1903 . Pontypridd . Volume 11a . Page 988
As Scamps moved into Wales, it seems they changed their name to Williams.
http://romanygenes.com/scamp-family/45286855105. Samson Scamp sp. Gravelini Lee
4. Nelson Scamp, killed at SwanseaThe two facts above are true for Samson and Nelson Williams.
July 1906: The funeral of the octogenarian gipsy, Nelson Williams, accidentally killed in collision with a cyclist, on the Mumbles-road last Friday.
I had thought Samson and Nelson were brothers, but the numbering system used for the Romany Genes list, suggests Nelson was a generation older. It appears, Nelson was around 20 years older, which would fit his death in 1906, being an octogenarian. But there were very large families, when child births spanning more than 20 years was possible, maybe different mothers.
As for Gravalina’s family:Samson and Elijah Lee were brothers and the sons of Samuel Lee from England. Samson with Alderaife Buckland had 13 children: Shandras, Senbee, Alafair, Gravalina, Job, Maggonas, Louisa, Esther, Madonna, Charlie, Perrin, Essea and Diana. Elijah Lee with Rosanna Boswell had 11 children: Sampson, Dilaia, Bill, Melvinia, Jane, Tom, Silas, Sophia, Christmas, Llewellyn and John.
http://www.valleystream.co.uk/romany-lee.htmThey are the only ones listed on census records, so they could be more.
Talacharn