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Re: Lucy MARSH
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 11 April 21 09:29 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for all your efforts.

Do you think I need to change my hypothesis that the 'Phoebe' of 1798 and the 'Lucy' of 1818 et seq are one-and-the-same?

I think we might be in Sherlock Holmes territory, having eliminated all possibilities so what we're left with must be the answer.
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Re: Lucy MARSH
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 11 April 21 12:56 BST (UK) »
As we can't find Absalom either maybe there are some records that are not online.
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Re: Lucy MARSH
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 11 April 21 15:05 BST (UK) »
Agreed. I'm sure that there are blocks of records missing, but individual records within a block? According to FreeReg, we seem to have access to all the Guildford area parish records, and there is no sign of Lucy MARSH in their records; neither does she appear in FindMyPast or Anc.
If, say, a page from the Register is missing, where, chronologically, would it fit? Lucy consistently reports her age which corresponds with a birth year of 1798, so would it be possible to fit her into the timeline of the the other MARSH children? As I mentioned earlier, there is no other MARSH family in the locality.
You've got to let me have her. Pretty please????
BENNETT, DAW, DYER, GARLAND, LEAT, SNELL, Devon
CONDY, DREW, GOLDSWORTHY, GONINAN, PENHALURICK, ROWE, TIPPET, WASLEY, Cornwall
NEWMAN, PERRIN, Gloucs
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BAKER, Somerset
RICHARDS, Brecknock
FRANCIS, Glam
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Re: Lucy MARSH
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 11 April 21 16:33 BST (UK) »
There is always the possibility she was not baptised.  Maybe she was illegitimate  ;D.   

I would agree that Stoke and Worplesdon records are the obvious records for Slyfield Green but 'Guildford' could cover a large area. 

This looks like the same James Marsh -
In 1851 James Marsh (born Worplesdon) is in Chertsey Street, Guildford as father in law to John Voller - wife Charlotte bn c1805 Worplesdon.  Chertsey Street changes into Stoke Road as it goes towards Slyfield Green. The church is in Stoke Road.

Marriage as Valler at Stoke - Charlotte Marsh 19 Oct 1828.  So there are other children out there  :)


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Charlotte Marsh
Baptism    27 Jan 1805
Worplesdon, St Mary,
Parents James & Phoebe
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Re: Lucy MARSH
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 11 April 21 16:52 BST (UK) »
Other baptism James & Phoebe at Worplesdon - These are transcripts from familysearch
Mary 18 Sep 1803
Milly Marsh  9 Nov 1806
James 24 Jun 1810
George 26 Jan 1812


John Marsh & Mary are also baptising children in Worplesdon around that time
John 2 Jan 1803
Martha January 1804
William Oct 1805
Henry 13 Sep 1807
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Re: Lucy MARSH
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 11 April 21 17:42 BST (UK) »
The only Surrey marriage of John MARSH and Mary is in Southwark in 1803, which is too late for Lucy, and there appears to be no space to fit her in.

The additional MARSH children in Worplesdon are interesting - thank you.

I think you're reinforcing my hypothesis! Go-on, let me have Phoebe/Lucy!
BENNETT, DAW, DYER, GARLAND, LEAT, SNELL, Devon
CONDY, DREW, GOLDSWORTHY, GONINAN, PENHALURICK, ROWE, TIPPET, WASLEY, Cornwall
NEWMAN, PERRIN, Gloucs
EVANS,  Hereford
BAKER, Somerset
RICHARDS, Brecknock
FRANCIS, Glam
ALBAN, Carmarthen
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Re: Lucy MARSH
« Reply #15 on: Monday 12 April 21 15:55 BST (UK) »
There was also a baptism at 'Stoke' in 1801 - Mary, parents John & Mary.

I don't think that you should 'Morph' Phoebe into Lucy but perhaps just add her to the rest of the family and see what else you can find.   Shame that James did not leave a will.

Worplesdon is close to the county boundary with Hampshire.
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Re: Lucy MARSH
« Reply #16 on: Monday 12 April 21 18:15 BST (UK) »
Does that mean I can assume that Lucy's parents are Phoebe & James? If so, that's fine by me as it enables me to see if I can get any further back.
BENNETT, DAW, DYER, GARLAND, LEAT, SNELL, Devon
CONDY, DREW, GOLDSWORTHY, GONINAN, PENHALURICK, ROWE, TIPPET, WASLEY, Cornwall
NEWMAN, PERRIN, Gloucs
EVANS,  Hereford
BAKER, Somerset
RICHARDS, Brecknock
FRANCIS, Glam
ALBAN, Carmarthen
WILLIAMS, Gower

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Re: Lucy MARSH
« Reply #17 on: Monday 12 April 21 19:07 BST (UK) »
I wouldn't do that. You can't go back on a false premise.
Have tried a DNA test?

Try looking in Hampshire she may have stated the closest large town.
I do people know the name of the town but not the small village I am from.