Henry family missing from 1871 census in Toxteth

[isiwig]

Thank you Alamo for your interest in my brick wall.  The address given on the marriage certificate for Hugh’s son John is Fletcher Street, Toxteth Park.  The death registration you mentioned for Hugh doesn’t tie in with his DOB unfortunately and I have no record of his wife’s death in 1868.

[ALAMO2008]

Rule number One in Family Research
Don't use 21st Accuracy eyes when researching and expect an exact match. Be Flexible.
Remember the Past is Not a Record of what happened.
It is a Record of What people "Said" happened, which may not the Truth
In my experience I have found those Registering a Relatives Death rarely knew someone's age or Date of Birth so the Age recorded was rarely the Truth, so don't rule anything out till you see the actual Death Certificate.
I spent nearly £100 trying to get my Great Grandfather's Death Certificate for Henry Chapman only to get the right one for a John Henry Crawford Chapman registered by his Daughter showing not only a name I'd discounted but also an Age.
I have 4 Relatives who's Birth Certificates clearly show their Actual Date of Birth
Months after they were Baptised in the Local Church !

[isiwig]

Thanks

[Maiden Stone]

Rule number One in Family Research
Don't use 21st Accuracy eyes when researching and expect an exact match. Be Flexible.
Remember the Past is Not a Record of what happened.
It is a Record of What people "Said" happened, which may not the Truth
In my experience I have found those Registering a Relatives Death rarely knew someone's age or Date of Birth so the Age recorded was rarely the Truth, so don't rule anything out till you see the actual Death Certificate.

Especially if the person concerned was born before birth registrations began and even more so if the person was born in Ireland.  Ages were flexible. Most people seldom needed to provide age information. My Irish granddad, born 2nd half of 19thC. "adjusted" his age several times, according to circumstances. Ditto his brother and sisters. My Irish grandma always gave the correct year of birth but had different dates of birth in baptism register and on birth certificate. Ages on death certificates of 2 Irish relatives were more than a decade out; informant for one of them was her son.

[ALAMO2008]

Pre 1911 you were never going to be entitled to a State Pension, so did it matter what Age you were.
The probably couldn't afford Birthday Cards and Birthday Presents and therefore probably never celebrated actual Birthdays and many couldn't Count anyway.
The first Census Enumerators in 1841 were told to Round ages Down to make the Census more acceptable.
So on the 1851 Census so ages are 15 years greater not 10
And that's assuming even that wasn't a Guess.
Being illiterate, people had no idea what the Enumerator recorded on the Census

[ALAMO2008]

Was Hugh Henry a Blacksmith married to Mary Langan  from Scotland?

[Maiden Stone]

Pre 1911 you were never going to be entitled to a State Pension, so did it matter what Age you were.
The probably couldn't afford Birthday Cards and Birthday Presents and therefore probably never celebrated actual Birthdays and many couldn't Count anyway.

Compulsory elementary education for children began late 19thC. in England and later still in Ireland. There was no lower age limit for children to start work until mid-19thC. in England.
My Irish family mentioned "bleeding the cow" on a feast-day to add flavour to oatmeal. Their grandparents (my great-grandparents) were alive during An Gorta Mor, the Great Famine. There were other famines, before & after.
When the state pension was introduced in Ireland, some people who had no idea about their age were asked if they remembered "The Night of the Big Wind". That event was used to estimate when a person may have been born.
A cousin of mine didn't know her dad's birthday. He was born in Ireland and died when she was a teenager. As she said, birthdays weren't important. 

[isiwig]

Thank you Maiden Stone & Alamo for your advice which is very interesting and I will consider when faced with a problem.  In reply to Alamo, Hugh Henry was a painter and was born in Ireland as was his wife Margaret.

Thanks again to all who replied.

[ALAMO2008]

Found this Ford Cemetery Burial 26 October -  December Quarter 1871 suggests my find of that Quarter Death
 is a good bet.
Gore Street is Liverpool 8 running from Stanhope Street