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JOHN STURGEON, Kilkeel, 1920
« on: Wednesday 07 April 21 23:27 BST (UK) »
JOHN STURGEON died on 6 Aug 1920 at Forster Green Hospital at the age of 22 after service with the Royal Marines. His parents George Sturgeon and Mary Fleming were married in St Malachy's RC Church, Castlewellan on 10 Oct 1897. His mother Mary died in 1910 in Kilkeel, already a widow at the age of 33; I have not found a death record for his father George.
John Sturgeon's Pension Card gives his address as Bridge St, Kilkeel and his next-of-kin as his grandmother, Mary Ann Fleming.
Does anyone know where John Sturgeon is buried?



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Re: JOHN STURGEON, Kilkeel, 1920
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 08 April 21 02:28 BST (UK) »
If you don't get an answer here, try the "A Day in the Life of Kilkeel" group at facebook, https://www.facebook.com/groups/436608986386995

You will need to request to join, but it shouldn't be a problem.


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Re: JOHN STURGEON, Kilkeel, 1920
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 08 April 21 12:33 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the tip; will follow up.


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Re: JOHN STURGEON, Kilkeel, 1920
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 08 April 21 12:40 BST (UK) »
should be "... of Kilkeel and Mourne"

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Re: JOHN STURGEON, Kilkeel, 1920
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 April 21 13:05 BST (UK) »
Using your material I jigged it around for my purposes and added bits
George Sturgeon a whitesmith in Castlewellan in 1897, a blacksmith  in kilkeel 1899 m 10 Oct 1897 St Malachy's RC Church, Castlewellan  Mary aka as Minnie Fleming at marriage b? d 1910 Kilkeel,  already a widow at the age of 33 [How do you know this ?surely shows when george died?] ; Witness was Mary A Fleming .see https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1897/10469/5812494.pdf  I have not found a death record for his father George.
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JOHN Patrick STURGEON 8 Mar 1899 Kilkeel see https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1899/02055/1786202.pdf
d 6 Aug 1920 at Forster Green Hospital  Belfast [was mainly TB and chest]  at the age of 22 after service with the Royal Marines. His parents George Sturgeon and Mary Fleming were married in St Malachy's RC Church, Castlewellan on 10 Oct 1897. His mother Mary died in 1910 in Kilkeel, already a widow at the age of 33; I have not found a death record for his father George.
John Sturgeon's Pension Card gives his address as Bridge St, Kilkeel and his next-of-kin as his grandmother, Mary Ann Fleming.
Does anyone know where John Sturgeon is buried?

moved to Belfast by 1901 Census
38 in Friendly Street (Cromac, Antrim)
Sturgeon   George   24   Male   Head of Family   R Catholic   Co Down   Black Smith   Read and write   -   Married   -
Sturgeon   Mary   23   Female   Wife   R Catholic   Co Down   -   Cannot read   -   Married   
children
Sturgeon   Mary Ann   4   Female   Daughter   R Catholic   Belfast City   -   Cannot read   -   Not Married   -
Sturgeon   John   2   Male   Son   R Catholic   Belfast City   -   Cannot read   -   Not Married   -
Sturgeon   Mary   23   Female   Wife   R Catholic   Co Down   -   Cannot read   -   Married   -
I normally donít quote the two civil entries  found  I leave it for you to look up . My transcription are a guide only which need checking, the same source will ask you to use the corrected material agreeing to their request but also can supply you formal copies for a small fee
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https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/namesearch/?FirstName=john&Surname=Sturgeon&RecordType=NotSelected&RecordDateStartYear=1700&RecordDateEndYear=2021&Step=1&ReceivedGallantryAward=False
John   Sturgeon   Po.19158   Private   1918   Royal Marines   
John   Sturgeon   PO/19158   Private   1918   Royal Marine Light Infantry   
J   Sturgeon   Deal/12433(S)   Private   1918   Royal Marine Labour Corps   
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I didnít find George Sturgeonís death record
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Re: JOHN STURGEON, Kilkeel, 1920
« Reply #5 on: Friday 09 April 21 13:39 BST (UK) »
John  was RC in the 1901 census but his Fleming grandparents look to have been Church of Ireland and, I think, sent him and Mary Ann to Church of Ireland schools in Dublin, where their denomination is shown as COI.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Kilkeel/The_Square/245672/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/South_Dock/Grand_Canal_Street__South_Side/81588/


http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Trinity_Ward/Townsend_Street/83125/

Maybe John is in the Fleming family plot in Kilkeel? Probably a churchyard used by Church of Ireland.
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Re: JOHN STURGEON, Kilkeel, 1920
« Reply #6 on: Friday 09 April 21 14:06 BST (UK) »
My thanks to all concerned for this wealth of information. I will pursue these leads and post result of my searches.