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Irish Immigrants residing in Whitehaven in the 1840's
« on: Thursday 08 April 21 05:40 BST (UK) »
Hi, I've hit a brick wall tracing my 3x great-ggrandmother, who I believe was an Irish immigrant who moved across to England as a child. Her name was Rosanna Smith, however she was also appears in some documents as Rosey/Roseanna/Rosanneah etc.
She was born approx. 1835 and appears in the 1841 Census as loving in Scott's Court, St Bees, Whitehaven with her parents Michael and Mary and siblings. I have traced her beyond that to her wedding and early death (of TB aged 29) however due to the common surname of Smith I can't find any dates around when the family arrived in the UK.
Any direction regarding research in this area (St Bees/Whitehaven) in particular history regarding Irish immigrants would be much appreciated!
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Re: Irish Immigrants residing in Whitehaven in the 1840's
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 08 April 21 08:12 BST (UK) »
There are no passenger lists between Ireland and England.  The eldest child in 1841 with the family was Catherine who was born in Cumberland she was age 8
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Re: Irish Immigrants residing in Whitehaven in the 1840's
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 08 April 21 08:33 BST (UK) »
Previous topics-
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=843626.msg7103781#msg7103781
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=844468.msg7112932#msg7112932 (Ireland)

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... however due to the common surname of Smith I can't find any dates around when the family arrived in the UK.
Ireland was part of the U.K. which is why no records were kept of people moving from one part to another. Migration between Ireland and England, Scotland and Wales was very common with families sometimes moving back and forth for employment or family reasons.

Your other post gives mother's maiden name as Collins. Unfortunately, the dates you are looking for are well before the start of civil registration in Ireland. If the family were Catholic there are now many R.C. parish registers online but you'd need to have a more exact location than 'Ireland' to start browsing through them.
https://registers.nli.ie/

Although Rosanna died at a young age it would be worth tracing her parents and siblings forward in English census records to see if a more exact place of birth is mentioned. Sometimes a county is given but in the 1911 census (we can't do lookups for that one here but Family Search should have it) a townland or parish is often mentioned.
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Re: Irish Immigrants residing in Whitehaven in the 1840's
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 08 April 21 10:00 BST (UK) »
Previous topics-
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=843626.msg7103781#msg7103781
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=844468.msg7112932#msg7112932 (Ireland)

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... however due to the common surname of Smith I can't find any dates around when the family arrived in the UK.
Ireland was part of the U.K. which is why no records were kept of people moving from one part to another. Migration between Ireland and England, Scotland and Wales was very common with families sometimes moving back and forth for employment or family reasons.

Your other post gives mother's maiden name as Collins. Unfortunately, the dates you are looking for are well before the start of civil registration in Ireland. If the family were Catholic there are now many R.C. parish registers online but you'd need to have a more exact location than 'Ireland' to start browsing through them.
https://registers.nli.ie/

Although Rosanna died at a young age it would be worth tracing her parents and siblings forward in English census records to see if a more exact place of birth is mentioned. Sometimes a county is given but in the 1911 census (we can't do lookups for that one here but Family Search should have it) a townland or parish is often mentioned.

Thanks- that's helpful. I've seen some references in other family trees to County Armagh and also Dromore, so might start looking there. I'll also look at the siblings to see if there is any mention in the 1911 census..

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Re: Irish Immigrants residing in Whitehaven in the 1840's
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 08 April 21 10:24 BST (UK) »
If you put "rosdavies.com" into your search engine you will find a brilliant personal website for County Down. I used it when researching family members who moved to Cumberland.
Wills Isle of Wight
Webb Hampshire & South Berkshire
Edmund Webb 1828 - 1901

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Re: Irish Immigrants residing in Whitehaven in the 1840's
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 April 21 12:17 BST (UK) »
Try Cleator Moor for Irish folk in Cumbria!

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Re: Irish Immigrants residing in Whitehaven in the 1840's
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 April 21 12:31 BST (UK) »
Yes! Found many there!
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Edmund Webb 1828 - 1901

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Re: Irish Immigrants residing in Whitehaven in the 1840's
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 April 21 19:27 BST (UK) »
Cumbrian Irish website https://irishandcumbrian.wordpress.com

Irish Genealogy Toolkit, guide to research. https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com
Genealogy tab includes topics:
Emigration (including to Britain); (Whitehaven was a port for shipping from Ulster.)
Northern Ireland
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