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A puzzling Family Mystery.. help please
« on: Thursday 08 April 21 15:48 BST (UK) »
Hi folks, I hope everyone is well in these trying times... This mystery has been  a very puzzling one...

Perhaps someone may help to fill in some blanks of this interesting family. A research colleague in New Zealand is in possession of a family photograph album presented as a gift to a Gladys Vivian Cooper at Christmas 1909 by her friend S L Hone.

Facts..

Glady’s father Harry Albert Cooper Was born in 1862 in Hammersmith, London and in later life became a civil servant. (1911 Census)..

He married Hannah Austin in Fulham in 1886 and the following year their daughter Gladys Vivian was born on 14 May 1887 in Richmond Surrey. Q- Where did they live?

On the 1891 Census Gladys and her mother were living with her grandparents Robert and Hannah A Austin.  Q where was Harry Albert?

On 1901 Census his wife and daughter are at her parents address. Q1.. Where was Harry Albert?

The family travelled to Singapore in 1907 (from photo) not sure about Harry? (Shipping lists?)

They also travelled to Belgium in 1903 (from photo)

On the 1911 Census Harry is in a hotel in Brighton with a ‘companion’ Katherine Hall?’
18 years his junior!..

Hannah and Gladys are at 14 Netheravon Road, Chiswick, London and a visitor Elsie Marguerite Hone is present (relative of the Hone who gave Gladys the album?) Q. can we connect Elsie Marguerite to S L Hone?

In 1939 Hannah & Gladys are at Compton Avenue, Goring on Sea .. Gladys is still single.

What happened to her father Harry Albert?.. it is suggested he died in Cornwall? Was there a will?...

It is believed Gladys became active with the United reformed church in Goring, Worthing.

In 1982 Gladys died still single at the age of 94 in a nursing home in Worthing, West Sussex. A long life, but what did she do I wonder? (Any newspaper articles?)

I know this is a big ask but would love to piece together any information whatsoever on this family in pursuit of reuniting the album and providing some information on the life of Gladys and her family..

Thank you in anticipation

Jayhen
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Re: A puzzling Family Mystery.. help please
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 08 April 21 16:13 BST (UK) »
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1901 Census his wife and daughter are at her parents address. Q1.. Where was Harry Albert?

Is this him with his parents in Chiswick

Clement Cooper 64
Amelia Rosetta 68
Harry Albert 39 married HM Civil something born Hammersmith
Albert Walter 27
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 08 April 21 16:17 BST (UK) »
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On the 1891 Census Gladys and her mother were living with her grandparents Robert and Hannah A Austin.  Q where was Harry Albert?

Harry A Cooper 29 married boarder civil service clerk born Hammersmith

At the South Western Hotel St Mary Southampton
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 08 April 21 16:20 BST (UK) »

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What happened to her father Harry Albert?.. it is suggested he died in Cornwall?

There is this death registration but you would need the certificate to see if he was the right person

Harry A Cooper age 73
death Mar 1935
St Columb Cornwall
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos


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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 08 April 21 16:23 BST (UK) »
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On the 1911 Census Harry is in a hotel in Brighton with a ‘companion’ Katherine Hall?’
18 years his junior!..

There are lots of boarders listed so I wouldn't necessarily jump to the conclusion this lady was his personal companion (although she may have been!) 
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 April 21 16:31 BST (UK) »
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can we connect Elsie Marguerite to S L Hone?

To start with Elsie M Hone is age 10 born Westminster and step daughter in 1891 census Chiswick with

Charles J Davis 30
Alice Davis 29
Henry J Davis 9 months

In 1881 she is daughter of George & Alice

Have to stop there for now but something to go on.
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 April 21 16:36 BST (UK) »
from Probate Index

Harry Albert Cooper of Donnybrook, Mount Wise, Newquay, Cornwall died 30 January 1935. Probate to the Public Trustee and Walter Horace Mulley solicitor. Effects £4139 + odds, resworn £3994 + odds.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 April 21 16:41 BST (UK) »
Passengers list
Harry Albert Cooper age 49 married tourist going on a tour around the world nearest relative came from Mrs Cooper ( mother ) Arlington Gardens Chiswick
Departure Southampton
Arrival date 20 September 1911
New York
Ship Oceanic

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 April 21 16:44 BST (UK) »
Probate for his father Clement who died 10 April 1905 granted to Harry Albert Cooper clerk in India Office.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb