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Abode on burial entry
« on: Friday 09 April 21 12:59 BST (UK) »
Can anyone make out the abode of James Owens? He was buried at LLansannan in Denbighshire in 1830.

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Re: Abode on burial entry
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 April 21 13:06 BST (UK) »
Ralltddu - I wonder if it should be Allt Ddu  :-\
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Re: Abode on burial entry
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 April 21 13:24 BST (UK) »
Yes, it could be. Allt Ddu is in the civil parish of LLangywer (according to Genuki).

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Re: Abode on burial entry
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 April 21 16:48 BST (UK) »
shows in Llansannan on this map

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01qif/
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Abode on burial entry
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 April 21 19:06 BST (UK) »
Quote from: osprey on Friday 09 April 21 16:48 BST (UK)
shows in Llansannan on this map

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01qif/

Brilliant find, thank you osprey!

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Re: Abode on burial entry
« Reply #5 on: Friday 09 April 21 19:49 BST (UK) »
really helpful site and you search on part of a place name

https://historicplacenames.rcahmw.gov.uk/placenames/search

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Abode on burial entry
« Reply #6 on: Friday 09 April 21 20:15 BST (UK) »
Welsh Tithe maps (produced around 1840) has a Philip Owen as occupier "Rallt Ddu ("Ralt Ddu" on actual map), Llansanan, land use "Homestead" - landowner Yorke Rees Wynne.
Also listed against "Rallt Ddu" Llansanan are Edward Davies, land use "Gardens" and John Williams, field name Rallt Ddu, Homestead. 

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 09 April 21 20:29 BST (UK) »
"Rallt Ddu" in 1841 census - reference HO107  piece 1402 Folio 11 Page 14

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Re: Abode on burial entry
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 11 April 21 11:33 BST (UK) »
Quote from: hanes teulu on Friday 09 April 21 20:15 BST (UK)
Welsh Tithe maps (produced around 1840) has a Philip Owen as occupier "Rallt Ddu ("Ralt Ddu" on actual map), Llansanan, land use "Homestead" - landowner Yorke Rees Wynne.
Also listed against "Rallt Ddu" Llansanan are Edward Davies, land use "Gardens" and John Williams, field name Rallt Ddu, Homestead. 
Thanks. Philip was James' son so I'm pleased that I have the right James. His wife Grace seems to have disappeared completely after the birth of their son Owen in 1797  ;D at least now I know where James' story ended.
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