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Birth records 1830s
« on: Saturday 10 April 21 14:04 BST (UK) »
I've discovered that my great, great grandfather was born in Ireland around 1830s and came to Scotland appearing in the 1851 Scottish census with his mother. I'm looking for suggestions as to how I would go about finding his birth record given that I have no idea where in Ireland he was born. Any advice would be much appreciated.

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Re: Birth records 1830s
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 10 April 21 14:22 BST (UK) »
Do You know the Year of His Marriage ? The Scotland's People Web Site provides the following information, regarding Scottish Marriage Certificates from 1855.

Marriages
A marriage certificate records the following facts:

Names, ages, and occupations of the bride and the groom
Marital Status
Residences of the Bride and Groom
Place and date marriage
Names and occupations of their fathers and whether they were deceased.
Names and maiden surnames of their mothers and whether they were deceased.
Witnesses
Whether the marriage was announced by banns or public notice
Date and place of registration

Additional information only on a 1855 marriage certificate:

Birthplaces of the bride and groom
Names and ages of both parents
Name of the person who officiated
Birth dates of the bride and groom
Kirkham, Garlick, Worthington, Shaw, Bamber. Fylde Coast
Naylor/Nailor, Lyons, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire
Redfern. Cheshire/Derbyshire
LeFebvere, Lincolnshire

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Re: Birth records 1830s
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 10 April 21 14:26 BST (UK) »
He was married in 1851 in Kettle in Fife so there is no mention of parents. His death certificate lists his parents as John Maguire and Catherine Green. Catherine Green died in 1882 and is listed as single on her death certificate. I'm not sure if that means his parents weren't married when he was born in Ireland.

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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 10 April 21 14:38 BST (UK) »
Can it be assumed that on the following Censuses from 1851 to 1881 and beyond, that He and his Mother's place of birth, do not appear ?
Kirkham, Garlick, Worthington, Shaw, Bamber. Fylde Coast
Naylor/Nailor, Lyons, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire
Redfern. Cheshire/Derbyshire
LeFebvere, Lincolnshire


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Re: Birth records 1830s
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 April 21 14:41 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately not.

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Re: Birth records 1830s
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 April 21 15:10 BST (UK) »
Did your GGF have any siblings that you can follow forwards on records to see what information they gave about their origins?
Which religious denomination did he belong to? As he was born before 1864 when civil registration of births began in Ireland you need to search for his baptism. That's difficult unless you know his religion and have an idea of where he was born. Existence of church registers from those times is patchy for all denominations.
Irish Genealogy Toolkit is a guide to research.
http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 April 21 16:04 BST (UK) »
No there were no siblings. Thanks for the link to the toolkit, I'll have a read.