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WRAY family of Ottringham - 17th century
« on: Saturday 10 April 21 15:28 BST (UK) »
Hi, I am happy that I have correctly taken my WRAY family ancestry back to the birth of a William Wray bp. 12 Jan 1670 in Ottringham but now need help with his antecedents but not his descendants thanks.

His baptism shows his father to be William Wray but I can find no suitable William Wray marriage in the locality for the elder William to account for the birth of William junior in 1670 or his sibling Elizabeth in 1673.

29 trees on Ancestry either also have no marriage for William the elder or have his wife as Ann(e) Agar with a marriage in Ottringham in 1729? although several have recorded the marriage to be in 1698? .  That actual marriage is recorded in York on 2 May 1729 according to the England Select Marriages Records on Ancestry.  I assume all the people with this info have copied each other and tried to make the detail fit - which it doesn't.

a) I wondered if anybody with access to the East Riding records might be able to confirm whether York in the 1729 marriage record really means York or might it mean Yorkshire, and
b) whether anybody can find a marriage for a William Wray (this seems to be spelled Reay the earlier you go) in a locality near Ottringham around about 1690.

Thanks for any help,  Pheno
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Re: WRAY family of Ottringham - 17th century
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 10 April 21 16:13 BST (UK) »
Looking at the records on FindMyPast, the 1729 marriage was York, Yorkshire
Dinsdale, Ellis, Gee, Goldsmith,Green,Hawks,Holmes,  Lacey, Longhorn, Pickersgill, Quantrill,Tuthill, Tuttle & Walker,  in E & W Yorks, Lincs, Norfolk & Suffolk. Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: WRAY family of Ottringham - 17th century
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 10 April 21 16:17 BST (UK) »
Thank you.  In conjunction with it being 30 years too late it is too far away too.

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Re: WRAY family of Ottringham - 17th century
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 10 April 21 16:31 BST (UK) »
There is a marriage 26/5/1687 in Wawne for a William Reay & Issabell Denton.

Wawne is now on the north/northeastern edge of Hull, a bit distant but not too far.
Dinsdale, Ellis, Gee, Goldsmith,Green,Hawks,Holmes,  Lacey, Longhorn, Pickersgill, Quantrill,Tuthill, Tuttle & Walker,  in E & W Yorks, Lincs, Norfolk & Suffolk. Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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Re: WRAY family of Ottringham - 17th century
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 April 21 16:47 BST (UK) »
I will follow this one through Bee thanks.

Much better timing and also much nearer to Ottringham although as you say, still a fair distance.

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Re: WRAY family of Ottringham - 17th century
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 April 21 16:53 BST (UK) »
If we're talking about Ottringham and Wawne parishes then according to genuki, they are only 13 miles apart as the crow flies.
Dinsdale, Ellis, Gee, Goldsmith,Green,Hawks,Holmes,  Lacey, Longhorn, Pickersgill, Quantrill,Tuthill, Tuttle & Walker,  in E & W Yorks, Lincs, Norfolk & Suffolk. Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: WRAY family of Ottringham - 17th century
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 April 21 16:57 BST (UK) »
Oh well that's easily doable then.

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Re: WRAY family of Ottringham - 17th century
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 April 21 17:09 BST (UK) »

29 trees on Ancestry either also have no marriage for William the elder or have his wife as Ann(e) Agar with a marriage in Ottringham in 1729? although several have recorded the marriage to be in 1698? .  That actual marriage is recorded in York on 2 May 1729 according to the England Select Marriages Records on Ancestry. 

The 'York' mention refers to the Archbishop Of York Marriage Licences and is not where they married
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:ZCBS-3T2M
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Re: WRAY family of Ottringham - 17th century
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 10 April 21 17:49 BST (UK) »
I did wonder that Rosie hence my question.  Is there any way I can narrow down where the actual marriage took place without having to look at the document in person - I am at the other end of the country.

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