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Miscarriages/Stillbirths
« on: Saturday 10 April 21 16:52 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Is there any available records for miscarriages/stillbirths in England? Do they get recorded anywhere? (apart from medical records)

I have a situation that would suggest that somehow a child is missing (according to the 1911 census) and I have about exhausted all logical (misspelled surnames etc.) searches in the GRO. 

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Kevin
Ferguson, Stockton-on-Tees
Hollinshead, Stafford/Guisborough
Pratt, Berwick/Newcastle-upon-Tyne
McDonald, Teesdale
Charlton, Hexham
Carlyle, Hexham/Annan Dumfries

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Re: Miscarriages/Stillbirths
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 10 April 21 16:57 BST (UK) »
The 1911 question relates to children born alive.   

Why not post the details here and we can look.

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Re: Miscarriages/Stillbirths
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 10 April 21 17:01 BST (UK) »
Some burial registers show " stillborn of xxxx".
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Miscarriages/Stillbirths
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 10 April 21 17:04 BST (UK) »
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend


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Re: Miscarriages/Stillbirths
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 April 21 17:20 BST (UK) »
The 1911 question relates to children born alive.   


I know but that is why I am confused. The census record shows Watson Ferguson (Furgeson). Shows 11 children born alive (1911 census of England, County Durham, RG 78 PN 1717A, RG 14 PN 29572, registration district (RD) 544, sub district (SD) 1, enumeration district (ED) 26, schedule number (SN) 229).

The issue is that of the 11 it shows 7 still living, 4 deceased, however, I have accounted for 12 children born (all proven with birth certificates) with his 2 wives (his first wife died and he re-married). Now of the 12 children, 2 were born with his first wife, 10 with his second wife (he was a busy man apparently!).

So the numbers don't really add up. I know one of his children from the first marriage died in infancy (3 months old in 1878 ). Given that his son filled out the 1911 census I guess he could have just made a mistake as he wasn't born when the first child passed.

Husband   Watson (Listed as Walter)   JUN   Stockton   1853
1st Wife   Ann (Ward) Jane   DEC   Stockton   1853
1   George Thomas   SEP   Middlesbrough   1878
2   John Robert   JUN   Middlesbrough   1881
1st wife deceased Watson then married            
2nd Wife   Sarah Ann (Priest)   MAR   Dudley   1862
3   Florence (Furgeson)   SEP   Middlesbrough   1884
4   Albert   DEC   Middlesbrough   1885
5   Tobias   JUN   Middlesbrough   1887
6   Watson   DEC   Middlesbrough   1888
7   John James (Furgeson)   JUN   Middlesbrough   1890
8   George   MAR   Middlesbrough   1892
9   William   MAR   Middlesbrough   1894
10   Jane Ann (Furgeson)   SEP   Middlesbrough   1895
11   Watson   SEP   Stockton   1899
12   Lilian   DEC   Stockton   1903

I am just trying to make sure of my research over what the census said.

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Kevin
Ferguson, Stockton-on-Tees
Hollinshead, Stafford/Guisborough
Pratt, Berwick/Newcastle-upon-Tyne
McDonald, Teesdale
Charlton, Hexham
Carlyle, Hexham/Annan Dumfries

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Re: Miscarriages/Stillbirths
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 April 21 18:21 BST (UK) »
It was possible that the son was given the answers by one of his parents.  I can only see 10 births to the 2nd marriage as well which is what the question relates to.

The five with the family in 1911 plus
 Florence   SEP   Middlesbrough   1884
 Tobias   JUN   Middlesbrough   1887

Those who died in infancy
Albert   DEC   Middlesbrough   1885 
Watson   DEC   Middlesbrough   1888
Lilian   DEC   Stockton   1903

Have you looked at baptisms and burials
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Re: Miscarriages/Stillbirths
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 April 21 18:38 BST (UK) »
Rosie

I have looked at the death registers but not baptism or burials. The family moved between counties but because Stockton and Middlesbrough are each side of the river Tees (the county boundary) the searches are twice the effort. The whole Thornaby issue is there as well. Geographically it is in North Yorkshire, but often it is listed as Durham. I have the same issue with my Teesdale branch. Why they couldn't just stick to one side of the Tees is beyond me! LOL (says the person in the USA!)

I am leaning towards the son not being given the correct number from his father. I am pretty sure his father couldn't read or write so maybe he couldn't count either?

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Kevin
Ferguson, Stockton-on-Tees
Hollinshead, Stafford/Guisborough
Pratt, Berwick/Newcastle-upon-Tyne
McDonald, Teesdale
Charlton, Hexham
Carlyle, Hexham/Annan Dumfries