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Re: John (Benjamin) GORDON Otaki
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 11 April 21 21:29 BST (UK) »
Hi.

As we also had a John GORDON in the Waikato, in that era, I decided to have a PapersPast look. If you have time to sort through the hits for the various John GORDON'S on the go, this link should take you to the first Otaki mention that I could find. The report of the tenders for the building of a teachers residence at Otaki.  John's bid was not the successful one.

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WH18820201.2.18?end_date=31-12-1882&items_per_page=100&phrase=2&query=John+Gordon&snippet=true&sort_by=byDA&start_date=01-01-1882&title=WC%2cWH

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Re: John (Benjamin) GORDON Otaki
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 11 April 21 22:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Signal Hill

It's possible that the Otaki Historical Society may be able to help with further information on John GORDON and sons. 

Amongst other things, they publish a very good journal each year.   I have no long-standing connections to the area, but often used to flick through these booklets at the library and be amazed at their content and the wonderful photos.

https://www.otakihistoricalsociety.org.nz/about_us

     ~   Lu

PS :     Just a thought about the lack of mention in newspapers of John GORDON's demise (if indeed that is him in 1897) ... death date December 29 ... end of year / beginning of a new year  ... holiday season !


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Re: John (Benjamin) GORDON Otaki
« Reply #11 on: Friday 16 April 21 02:36 BST (UK) »
Death Printout reveals that this is the right John GORDON - thanks MckHa  :)
- married to Rena, info supplied by George and aged 67 - therefore born about 1830

However George informs his father was
  • "in NZ" for 30 years                    - therefore arrived 1867
  • married for 30 years                   - therefore married 1867
  • three sons aged 27, 24, and 21   - therefore births about 1870 1873 and 1876
    • buried by Rev James McMillan C of E

    The information in the Cyclopedia of NZ (Cashmere 1852-53) conflicts with arrival date and I would have expected George to have supplied this information too

    I have sons  Thomas born 1868
    and George (aka Te Oti Kotene),born 1872

    I'm pretty sure that The burial minister (of John GORDON - Rev James McMillan C of E)  rules out Horohoro

    Now need to check arrival in NZ
    and confirm the eldest son details
    also have not yet identified Mrs Thom GORDON

     Otaki Mail   17 December 1920       Page 2 
    MR TOM GORDON. The death occurred on Wednesday of Mr Tom Gordon, brother to Mr Geo. Gordon, of Otaki. Deceased, who resided in this district for many years, 'has for some time past lived at Rotorua. but owing to failing health came to Otaki quite recently for a change. Although he suffered from paralysis he appeared to be making good improvement but a few hours before his death he was seized with a fit, and shortly after passed away. The late Mr Gordon. who was fifty years of age, leaves a wife and family to mourn their loss. The funeral takes place on Saturday afternoon at Otaki.

    Signal
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Re: John (Benjamin) GORDON Otaki
« Reply #12 on: Friday 16 April 21 03:25 BST (UK) »
Death Printout reveals that this is the right John GORDON - thanks MckHa  :)


I'm pretty sure that The burial minister (of John GORDON - Rev James McMillan C of E)  rules out Horohoro


Signal

Q:   Is the burial place of John GORDON, not noted on the death printout  ???


The information in the Cyclopedia of NZ (Cashmere 1852-53) conflicts with arrival date and I would have expected George to have supplied this information too

The informant to the death (in that era) was only required  to give an indication of how long the  deceased had been in New Zealand.   
[Do be aware though, that often the "Years in New Zealand" question, can be "quess work" on the part of the informant. ]

     ~  Lu



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Re: John (Benjamin) GORDON Otaki
« Reply #13 on: Friday 16 April 21 03:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Signal

Mrs Thomas GORDON :

I think this is probably the wife of Tom (although the marriage is not until 1911).

Annie Elizabeth EGAN -- Thomas GORDON -- Year:  1911

1928 -- BOP Electoral roll - Rotorua

GORDON - Annie Elizabeth - widow - Tawera Street, Rotorua

*   Have additional info to add ... just need to re-check records and get back to you.
 
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Re: John (Benjamin) GORDON Otaki
« Reply #14 on: Friday 16 April 21 03:54 BST (UK) »
also ... 1900 - Otaki  Electoral Roll

GORDON - Thomas - carpenter - Whiteman's Valley
GORDON - Annie Elizabeth - domestic duties - Whiteman's Valley


[ Note:   Whiteman's Valley is nearer to Upper Hutt in the lower North Island ... but it was part of the "Otaki" electorate for many years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitemans_Valley   ]

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Re: John (Benjamin) GORDON Otaki
« Reply #15 on: Friday 16 April 21 03:58 BST (UK) »
These births to Annie Elizabeth and Thomas GORDON  :

1900 - GORDON - Albert John  (Birth reg'd. at Petone, Wellington)

1903 - GORDON - Victor Thomas  ( Birth reg'd. at Wanganui )

1909 - GORDON - Reuben Benjamin - (Birth reg'd. at Rotorua )


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Re: John (Benjamin) GORDON Otaki
« Reply #16 on: Friday 16 April 21 04:37 BST (UK) »
Mrs Thomas GORDON - cont'd. 

Seems that Annie Elizabeth had had a previous marriage - 1890 to a William Daniel EGAN.

She is probably the Annie Elizabeth LEE born in 1864, NZ.

Added :  former marriage  >
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZMAIL18910123.2.51

In 1935 Annie Elizabeth GORDON remarried to Arnold William Ripley JACOMB.
In 1938 the couple were living at Taupo Road, Rotorua.

Annie Elizabeth JACOMB died on 3 September 1949 at Rotorua - aged 81 years (bc.  1868 -- year of  birth may have been "adjusted" as her husband was some years younger  ? )

Her Probate record names two of her sons.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK9V-VL61

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Re: John (Benjamin) GORDON Otaki
« Reply #17 on: Friday 16 April 21 04:38 BST (UK) »
... just to explain ... the son George, named as co-executor in Annie JACOMB's will, appears to be >

NZ Birth Index

1891 - EGAN - George Nathaniel
Parents :   Annie Elizabeth and Daniel