Bebington 1872 England to NZ

[KChase]

G'day.   I have an ancestor (James Hancox and wife Eliza Jane (nee  Morgan) Hancox and their kiddies, Ann and James - who had a baby (Albert Edward) on board the Bebington on the way out here in 1872.   
The passenger list off rootswebb doesn't list the baby born but it does list others that died.  Is there a way I can confirm the birth of this child?   Nothing on NZ BDM.   I understand births were registered in the ships log but a) where do I find it and b) my passengers were coming out on the government emigration scheme so were not the luckier ones coming out under their own finance.

Any help would be very much appreciated.
Thanks heaps
Kelly

[Milliepede]

How do you know the name of the baby without his birth? 

[spades]

Hi,

You might find some information in this article from the AtoJ’s online (I hope, I can’t read it on my phone).

I found it by searching ‘Hancox bebington 1872’. There were other results as well.

https://atojs.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/atojs?a=d&d=AJHR1873-I.2.2.3.1

Spades.

[wivenhoe]

Is this death the child you are interested in?


NZ BDM death
1877/2484   HANCOX   Albert Edward   4Y

What is your source for your Albert Edward HANCOX to be born at sea?

[Lucy2]

Hi Kelly

Here is the NZ Immigration Passenger List for the "Bebington" arrived at Wellington October 1872.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYJ7-98W?i=16&cc=1609792

Your HANCOX family are listed as "HANCOCK" ... see the entry at Image # 17.
[Underneath that is the HANCOX family of Henry(24), wife Sarah and children.   Was Henry related to James ? ]

Often you can find a list of births (and deaths) aboard a vessel, listed in the last pages of the passenger list.  Unfortunately can't find that on the "Bebington" list.     
Another source may be the publication in a newspaper of the passenger list / ships arrival at a port, where there's a summary of the voyage which includes say, the number of births (and deaths) on
board - though names are not always noted.

Someone has already mentioned here the death in 1877 of an Albert Edward HANCOX ?   That death was registered at Tapanui, Marlborough (Province) *Otago.   Is that where your family settled ??
[I haven't yet checked PapersPast for the death ... nor have I seen the passenger list on rootsweb.]

    ~  Lu

Edited :  To correct Province, which is incorrectly given as Tapanui, Marlborough (source: NZ Deaths @ancestry.com)    It should read as  Tapanui, Otago.

[Lucy2]

Hi Kelly

I'm guessing this is the child Albert, though his name is not mentioned in the article ?
Does though say "son of Jas. HANCOX.

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/LCP18770510.2.3

Amendment :     Earlier I gave details that the death of an Albert Edward HANCOX (d. 1877) was registered at Tapanui, Marlborough Province.    That is how it was indexed !!       But it does look like it was meant as "Tapanui, Otago Province" :   I will go back and correct my earlier post.

     ~ Lu

[Lucy2]

Hi Kelly

I have a birth record for you.   

Although no forenames were given for this child,  (and given the incorrect spelling [HANCOCK] of the family's surname on the passenger list) the following birth seems most likely to be that of the child
Albert Edward HANCOX.

Births at Sea :

Mrs HANCOCK - Male child - born on 6 October 1872

Ship :   "Bebington"   (No. of Ship :  27449 )

Date of Receipt of List :     6-6-73

[Source:   UK Registers of Births, Marriages and Deaths at Sea -- 1844-1890 (@ancestry) ]

     ~  Lu

Edited to correct source title.

[KChase]

Thank you everyone - in answer to your questions....

1. I have death registration of Albert Edward that says he died April 16th 1877 at age 4 years and three months.  No birth date is given on the registration.
2. It says he was born at sea.
3.Yes Henry Hancox (on the passenger list) and his family travelled together  - James was his brother.

They started in Bluff (Campbelltown) and spent 6 years heading north.

Albert Edward was a complete surprise to me and I couldn't fit him in with existing siblings but am able to sort that side out now with the birth date from Lucy - thanks heaps! 

The newspaper artical from NZPapers Past is my James.    Seems he went walk about for a while.... but good news is that he came to his senses (or his brother dragged him there!) and he and Eliza carried on northwards and actually had a big family and a good life - settled in Otaki and then Piriaka.

From the bottom of my heart - thank you - everyone.   Your help has been amazing and I can lay this little fellow to rest in my tree, knowing for sure where he fits.

Have a great week everyone x

[Lucy2]

Hi again

Don't know whether you already have (or want) this information, but I jotted it down just in case when I accessed the UK Births, Marriages and Deaths at Sea

Deaths at Sea : 

Ship :   "Bebington - 1872   [Deaths listed as HANCOCK ... rather than HANCOX ]

HANCOCK - Mary - 18 months - died 4-8-72

HANCOCK -  John - 1 year - died 19-8-72

HANCOCK - *Jane - F (= female) - 12 months - died 29-8-72

[*  "Jane" (even though listed as a female) is I suspect James, son of James and Eliza  ??  ]

Date of Receipt of List :    6-6-73

        ~  Lu