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Conviction records? - England
« on: Tuesday 13 April 21 11:14 BST (UK) »
Hi

I have recently found the cremation record for my 1st cousin, once removed,  Joseph Keating, which shows he died in Walton Prison, Liverpool, 30th May 1983, aged 43.  I've found a public record which would suggest he took his own life.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/493975/deaths-in-custody-table.pdf

How can I find out what he was in prison for?  I know newspaper archives are the obvious place to start but I don't have a subscription to any of these sites. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Conviction records? - England
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 April 21 12:10 BST (UK) »
As far as I know - the 100yr rule would apply to sight/release of those records

You may be able to locate an inquest or coroners record at Liverpool RO which may give some info
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Re: Conviction records? - England
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 April 21 12:14 BST (UK) »
As far as I know - the 100yr rule would apply to sight/release of those records

You may be able to locate an inquest or coroners record at Liverpool RO which may give some info

Why would the 100 year rule apply? Aren't convictions a public record, they are published in the media every day?



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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 13 April 21 12:18 BST (UK) »
Register with https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/account/register

You get 3 page views free when you register.

You need Liverpool Echo 14 December 1982, page 7, final column

and Liverpool Echo 14 June 1962 page 3 final column re previous serious offences
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Re: Conviction records? - England
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 April 21 12:28 BST (UK) »
Try searching The National Archives Discovery. I located trial details of someone tried for attempted murder, the documents, including photos of injuries sustained by  the victim, were released to the public domain after fifteen years.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 April 21 12:52 BST (UK) »
Register with https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/account/register

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You need Liverpool Echo 14 December 1982, page 7, final column

and Liverpool Echo 14 June 1962 page 3 final column re previous serious offences

Sorry I asked now!  :o  Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

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Re: Conviction records? - England
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 15 April 21 11:39 BST (UK) »
My understanding is that most deaths in custody go to inquest, the death certificate will show the cause of death. The inquest may be reported in the paper.

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 15 April 21 12:07 BST (UK) »
My understanding is that most deaths in custody go to inquest, the death certificate will show the cause of death. The inquest may be reported in the paper.
I know he killed himself, how isn't important to me.  What I really wanted to know was why he was in prison which I now know unfortunately.

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 15 April 21 12:17 BST (UK) »
My understanding is that most deaths in custody go to inquest, the death certificate will show the cause of death. The inquest may be reported in the paper.

And it was
Liverpool Echo 23 Sept 1983
page 15 col 1



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