Carl Gustav Adolf KRUMMEL and Johanna Dorothea Maria Holzgrefe b.in Prussia.

[davecapps]

Thats him.
Here, and on All the records i found he is called Gustav Adolph
Seems to have adopted the name Charles (Carl) in Australia
He has  a brother Carl

[turramurra]

Thank you davecapps and other researchers for help.

Yes I do have Ancestry and any help would be really good.
Turramurra.

[davecapps]

Lets start with the Krümmel family
What do we Have:

On Gustavs naturalization memorial his place of birth is Klein Rodensleben
On the passenger list in 1854 his place of origin is Wanzleben. This is the county town, 7 km´s away.

Klein Rodensleben
https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/10999023
Wanzleben
https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/21075040

Klein Rodensleben, near Magdeburg, has a present population of 540.
the church books in Ancestry in the early 19 century show an average of about 15 births, 3 marriages and 10 deaths a year. possibly less than 100 residents.

Conclusion: anybody called Krümmel found originating from Klein Rodensleben is a member of the family you are looking for.

Following this assumption, here´s the birth of Gustav Adolph Krümmel in 1829.

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/61132/images/1336077-00116?ssrc=&backlabel=Return

born 16 May at 2 pm. legitimate. son of Christian Friedrich Krümmel Windmüller(wind miller). protestant and Johanne Catharine Marie nee Krümmel. protestant. both from here
baptisted on the 31 May.
witnesses:
Johann Friedrich Weber
Joachim Bethge
Anna Elisabeth Körner
Catharina Niewerth

Dave

[davecapps]

Marriage, Gustav Adolph´s parents.
Just a bit of history before we continue.
The terms canton and departement in this marriage entry derive from!

In the course of the Napoleonic Wars, Magdeburg surrendered to French troops in 1806. The city was annexed to the French-controlled Kingdom of Westphalia. This lasted from 1806 to 1815

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/61132/images/1336076-00712?ssrc=&backlabel=Return

Proklamationsregister, beginn
No 1
Klein Rodensleben, in Kanton Oliven
stedt des Elb-Departements am zwei und
zwanzigsten Januar, achtzehntausend und
vierzehn, vormittags um acht Uhr
Der ein und zwanzig Jahr und ein Monat
alt. Windmüller, Christoph Friedrich
Krummel, hierselbst, des hiesigen Windmüllers
und Einwohners Meister Christoph Friedrich
Krümmel und dessen Ehefrau, Christiane
Maria Reuscher eheleiblicher einziger Sohn
und die fünf und zwanzig und zwei
monat alt, Johanne Marie Catharine
Krümmel, der hier gewesene Gerichts
Schöppe und Ratmanns Johann Paul
Krümmel und dessen Ehefrau, weiland
Sofie Dorothe Niewerth, nachgelassene
eheleibliche, zweite Tochter, allhier
an den beiden Sonntagen am zweiten und
dritten ?? als am sechszehnten
und drei und zwanzigsten Januar in
hiesigen Kirche am Schluss d. Vor
mittags Predigt als ehelich Verlob
te zwei Mahl ist entlich aufgebotet??

Carl Rook
Civilstands Beamte u.
Prediger allhier
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Proclamations register, begin
No 1
Klein Rodensleben, in Canton Olivenstedt,
Elb-Departements on the 22 January 1814
at 8 am. the 21 years and 1 month old Windmüller, Christoph Friedrich Krümmel, from here,
son of the local Windmüllers and resident, master Christoph Friedrich Krümmel and his wife
Christiane Maria Reuscher, legitimate only son

and the 25 years and 2 months old Johanne Marie Catharine Krümmel
daughter of the deceased and former court jurymann and councilor
Johann Paul Krümmel and his deceased wife Sofie Dorothe Niewerth, legitimate, second daughter
from here.
On the second and third sundays and the 16th and 23rd Januar in this church after the morning sermon were proclaimed as married

Carl Rook
Civil servant and Priest, from here

https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/20415069

[turramurra]

Amazing Old German/Prussian Records
Thank you for searching

I am very pleased to see this family unfold

Christine.
Turramurra

[davecapps]

Here are Gustav´s siblings
glean off what you can. If you need any help translating and transcribing, let me know.

don´t be confused when Krümmel is spellt Krümel.
The stroke above a letter means double, m with a stroke=mm

Marriage Christoph Friedrich 1814
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/61132/images/1336077-00306?ssrc=&backlabel=Return

Birth Christian Friedrich 1816 – no 2
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/61132/images/1336076-00726?ssrc=&backlabel=Return

Birth Marie 1818 – no 18
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/61132/images/1336077-00009?ssrc=&backlabel=Return

Birth Johann 1821 – no 6
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/61132/images/1336077-00039?ssrc=&backlabel=Return


Birth Marie 1823 – no 25
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/61132/images/1336077-00064?ssrc=&backlabel=Return
Marriage Marie 1859 – no 11
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/61132/images/1190750-00123?ssrc=&backlabel=Return


Geb Carl 1826
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/61132/images/1336077-00091?ssrc=&backlabel=Return

Dave

[turramurra]

Thank you for your findings.
The German handwriting certainly is spidery but readable after magnifying.
I am fascinated by this family becoming visible..

Turramurra

[davecapps]

HI
I had a look at the Holzgrefe side. Found no confirmation of Johanna Dorothea Maria Holzgrefe´s birth. Only these two finds

If you think they are correct, then. i have the birth record of Catherina Dorothea Elisabetha Bunge
in 1821 and her marriage record with Johann Friedrich Christoph Holzgrefe in 1840

let me know if you are interested
Dave

[turramurra]

davecaps,
This is so kind of you to share the research.

I am very aware of all time and effort in these findings...
It is generous of all rootschat people to further our family histories!!

Thank you for all the information,
Turramurra