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Offline TPH

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Confused about a relative
« on: Wednesday 14 April 21 11:26 BST (UK) »
I came across and entry in the 1939 register which appears to show my great grandfather (Alfred E Brundle) his second wife (Ada Brundle formerly Hathaway) and a further individual (Alfred A Brundle).

I initially thought that Alfred A Brundle might have been their son as he was born about two years after they got married. However when I checked his birth on FreeBMD the name 'World' is listed against his birth. I can't find any other link between World and Hathaway or Brundle so I am at a bit of a loss as to the actual relation.

Does anyone have any ideas?


*Note. I have checked and all 3 individuals are no longer alive.

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Re: Confused about a relative
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 April 21 11:41 BST (UK) »
The only thing I can suggest is to purchase the birth certificate, at the moment I can't see anything that connects,

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Re: Confused about a relative
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 14 April 21 11:44 BST (UK) »
A time frame, so this is the marriage

Marriages Dec 1922

BRUNDLE    Alfred E    Hathaway    Pancras    1b   94    
HATHAWAY    Ada    Brundle    Pancras    1b   94

Interesting - I cannot see any birth registration with the combination of Brundle/Hathaway.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Confused about a relative
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 April 21 11:47 BST (UK) »
Was Ada definitely single when she married Alfred snr? or could she have been Ada World, first married to a Mr Hathaway?
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott


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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 14 April 21 11:51 BST (UK) »
This is Alfred's full birth record from the GRO showing all his names

BRUNDLE, ALFRED  ARTHUR     WORLD 
GRO Reference: 1924  J Quarter in ST. PANCRAS  Volume 01B  Page 212
 
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Confused about a relative
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 14 April 21 11:53 BST (UK) »
20 Jun 1909 at Islington, Ada World and Henry William Hallaway. Could that be it andin Ada's later marriage Hallaway has been mistranscibed as Hathaway
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Confused about a relative
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 April 21 11:55 BST (UK) »
Ada's father is William Edmund World - undertaker
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Confused about a relative
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 April 21 11:57 BST (UK) »
Henry William Hallaway died in WW1
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 April 21 12:03 BST (UK) »
I wonder if Ada's age was given as younger than she actually was?

WORLD, ADA       OFFWOOD 
GRO Reference: 1884  M Quarter in PANCRAS  Volume 01B  Page 21

There is no birth record for 1887 and Alfred's year of birth is 1889.  Presumably Ada wished to appear younger than she was and thereby close the gap between herself and Alfred.

This looks to be Alfred's birth record

BRUNDLE, ALFRED  EDWARD     BENNETT 
GRO Reference: 1889  D Quarter in ISLINGTON  Volume 01B  Page 340
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire