Author Topic: John James Beckers  (Read 2100 times)

Offline littlefacey

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 938
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
John James Beckers
« on: Wednesday 14 April 21 17:15 BST (UK) »
Hey all,

Im looking for the parents of John James Beckers... can anyone help?

Here's what I know

born between 1806 and 1807 in Middlesex

married 3rd July 1831 at St John's, Hackney to Eliza Knight

Possibly had a sister called Ann? seen on the 1841 census
Morralley, Morrallee, Moralee, Felton, Paxton, Schonbeck

Offline QueenoftheWest

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,362
    • View Profile
Re: John James Beckers
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 April 21 18:39 BST (UK) »
Hey all,

Im looking for the parents of John James Beckers... can anyone help?

Here's what I know

born between 1806 and 1807 in Middlesex

married 3rd July 1831 at St John's, Hackney to Eliza Knight

Possibly had a sister called Ann? seen on the 1841 census

Like you, I was unable to find a baptism for a John that fits. However, I just want to add that, on the 1851 census, he states his birthplace as "St Marylebone, Middlesex" which narrows it down a bit.

You may have already seen this but this is interesting:

Name: Mary Ann Beckers
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 31 Mar 1805
Baptism Place: St Marylebone, Westminster, Middlesex, England
Father: John Beckers
Mother: Sarah Beckers

There are a few things, which could be coincidences, that link to your John James Beckers:
- The parish - St Marylebone
- The time period - early 1800s
- The father's name - John would have probably had a son named after him
- The mother's name - John's second daughter was called Sarah (according to naming customs, the first or second daughter is often named after the mother of the father)

I don't know why but I cannot find any other baptisms for this couple. I don't know how this links to the Ann Beckers who was living with John in 1841.

Just thought I would put forward my theory! Maybe others will have more luck finding a more definitive record.

Queenie  :)
Fidler - West Ilsley, Berkshire
Hamlin/Hamlyn - Long Sutton & Martock, Somerset
Head - Marlborough & Alton Priors, Wiltshire
Minson - Kingstone, Somerset/Symondsbury, Dorset
Owsley - Buckland St Mary, Somerset
Pyke - (West) Weeke/Wick, Pewsey, Wiltshire
Salisbury - Dowlish Wake/West Dowlish, Somerset

Offline Milliepede

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,260
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: John James Beckers
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 14 April 21 22:05 BST (UK) »
I was just wondering if the Ann Beckers on the 1841 was a young daughter and her age was 2 something rather than 29 as transcribed? 

There is a Mar 1839 birth in Hackney
Beckers - mothers name Knight
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

Offline maddys52

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,220
  • Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.
    • View Profile
Re: John James Beckers
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 15 April 21 05:32 BST (UK) »
I was just wondering if the Ann Beckers on the 1841 was a young daughter and her age was 2 something rather than 29 as transcribed? 

There is a Mar 1839 birth in Hackney
Beckers - mothers name Knight

I agree, looks like 2 1/2 to me.


Offline littlefacey

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 938
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: John James Beckers
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 15 April 21 17:51 BST (UK) »
Im not sure what it could be?  ???  but it would fit with the birth record!

Morralley, Morrallee, Moralee, Felton, Paxton, Schonbeck

Offline littlefacey

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 938
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: John James Beckers
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 15 April 21 20:11 BST (UK) »
I was just wondering if the Ann Beckers on the 1841 was a young daughter and her age was 2 something rather than 29 as transcribed? 

There is a Mar 1839 birth in Hackney
Beckers - mothers name Knight


Looking into it the birth register in 1839 is his daughter Sarah Beckers and I cant actually find a birth for a Ann Beckers in 1839?  ???
Morralley, Morrallee, Moralee, Felton, Paxton, Schonbeck

Offline maddys52

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,220
  • Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.
    • View Profile
Re: John James Beckers
« Reply #6 on: Friday 16 April 21 07:37 BST (UK) »
If it is daughter Sarah, where is she in 1841? I think it is the same person.  :-\

Slightly (?) clearer image.

Offline littlefacey

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 938
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: John James Beckers
« Reply #7 on: Friday 16 April 21 13:53 BST (UK) »
If it is daughter Sarah, where is she in 1841? I think it is the same person.  :-\

Slightly (?) clearer image.

That's true.. Could have possibly been Sarah Ann but just dropped Ann in later life.
Morralley, Morrallee, Moralee, Felton, Paxton, Schonbeck

Offline littlefacey

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 938
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: John James Beckers
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 18 April 21 14:04 BST (UK) »
So i've now made a list of his children's witnesses and marked anyone who isn't an obvious relative... hoping that one might be a cousin or aunt/uncle or something to link me to a relative of John James!

FYI

John James Beckers & Eliza Knight - St John, Hackney 1831
Wm Jackson & John Fox (wm Jackson appears on lots of certs so he's prob a church official)

Eliza Beckers & Joshua Jackson - St John, Hackney 1847
John Jackson (most likely his reli) & Sarah Pickton

Sarah Beckers & John Green - St John of Jerusalem, Hackney 1859
John Green (his reli) & Ellen Beckers (sister)

Ellen Beckers & William Bide - St John of Jerusalem, Hackney 1862
David Bide (most likely his reli) & Jessie Dowery

John Beckers & Emma Amelia Lock - St Peter, Hackney 1875
Rober Speare/Sheare? & Ann Baines
Morralley, Morrallee, Moralee, Felton, Paxton, Schonbeck