Author Topic: Alfred Drury - where did he get to?  (Read 2136 times)

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Re: Alfred Drury - where did he get to?
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 17 April 21 03:00 BST (UK) »
That he claims to be a widower on remarriage says to me that there was no divorce
https://www.torontopubliclibrary.ca/history-genealogy/lh-digital-city-directories.jsp
 - directories might be one way of tracing them through the years

In 1937 he is listed as Albt G, foreman Nellsons, h (house) 638 Dufferin
https://archive.org/details/torontocitydirectory1937/page/n643/mode/2up
Still there in 1938 (note the other Albert, no middle initial, in both of these)
https://archive.org/details/torontocitydirectory1938/page/n651/mode/2up
Not present in 1939
https://archive.org/details/torontocitydirectory1939/page/n613/mode/2up

And further on an Alice Drury, widow of Albert, appears in 1946:
https://archive.org/details/torontocitydirectory1946/page/n573/mode/2up

Struggling to find any concrete records of Alice or Albert moving to the US or Canada (there are various Alice Small/Drury records and various Albert Drury records but none seem to line up with what's been found about them so far)
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Re: Alfred Drury - where did he get to?
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 17 April 21 06:34 BST (UK) »
Passports for travel within the British Empire were not required at that time.
So Albert could travel under a false name without being challenged.

Alice was leaving with the full knowledge of family so used her own name.

It seems confirmed that she departed per 'Victoria " in 1907.

The digitised passenger list arrival in UK of that voyage shows not much more information, other than the strange indication that she was British born.
There is another column on the form which allows for people born in other parts of the British Commonwealth, so we wonder....?

It will be good if someone else would look at the Ancestry image and confirms my understanding she was travelling steerage.  Another surprise when one reads of her fabulous dresses and lifestyle previously!

Also, am I correct in seeing from that image,that only one other steerage passenger boarded in Melbourne 
Mr A J HOMER. (born in Scotland)

Mrs Small
Ship 'Victoria'
Port of Departure Sydney, Australia
Arrival Date  8 Aug 1907
Port of Arrival London, England
Ports of Voyage Sydney; Melbourne; Largs Bay; Shanghai; Hong Kong; Singapore; Colombo; Bombay and Suez
Shipping Line P & O
Official Number 93.192



In 1937 he is listed as Albt G, foreman Nellsons, h (house) 638 Dufferin
https://archive.org/details/torontocitydirectory1937/page/n643/mode/2up
Still there in 1938 (note the other Albert, no middle initial, in both of these)
https://archive.org/details/torontocitydirectory1938/page/n651/mode/2up
Not present in 1939
https://archive.org/details/torontocitydirectory1939/page/n613/mode/2up

 

I wonder what kind of business was NELLSON'S where Albert was employed.

Sue

 
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Re: Alfred Drury - where did he get to?
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 17 April 21 06:55 BST (UK) »
My guess is that “Neilson’s" was a Confectionery and Ice Cream manufacturer on 277-307 Gladstone av i.e. right behind Dufferin( currently Cadbury’s)

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Re: Alfred Drury - where did he get to?
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 17 April 21 07:09 BST (UK) »
My guess is that “Neilson’s" was a Confectionery and Ice Cream manufacturer on 277-307 Gladstone av i.e. right behind Dufferin( currently Cadbury’s)

Sound like he stuck with dairy related produce then  ;D

Sue
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Re: Alfred Drury - where did he get to?
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 17 April 21 07:14 BST (UK) »
That had crossed my mind as well ... LOL

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Re: Alfred Drury - where did he get to?
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 17 April 21 09:34 BST (UK) »
https://www.torontopubliclibrary.ca/history-genealogy/lh-digital-city-directories.jsp
 - directories might be one way of tracing them through the years

I decided to dive into those directories and to put the most likely listings for Albert together:

Year  -  Drury first name  -  Address  -  Occ
1926  -   Geo A  -  (boards) 654 Dufferin  -  emp Neilsons
1927  -   N/A
1928  -   Albert  -  131 Gladstone av  - (none listed)
1929  -   N/A
1930  -   Albert  -  127 Gladstone av  -  lab Neilson’s
1931  -   Albert G  -  339 B Gladstone av  -  foremn Neilson’s
1932  -   Geo A  -  339 B Gladstone av  -  lab Wm Neilson
1933  -   H G  -  638 Dufferin  -  foreman Neilson’s (the “H” could have been a typo?)
1934  -   H Geo  -  638 Dufferin  -  foremn Neilson’s
1935  -   Geo A   -  638 Dufferin  -  foreman Neilson’s
1936  -   Geo A  -  638 Dufferin  -  (none listed)
1937  -   Albt G  -  638 Dufferin  -  foremn Neilson’s
1938  -   Albert G  -  638 Dufferin  -  foremn Neilson’s


The name George kept on popping and I started to wonder whether Albert might have used “George” on passenger lists … but instead I found a George Drury born in Austria::) ) who was 71y when he died on 9 Aug 1938 in Toronto.
Other details:
Date of Birth = Jan 6 (= same date is mentioned on Albert’s baptism record;   https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9BZ-1Q35-H?i=493 )
Wife = Alice
Residence/place of Death  = 638 Dufferin
Burial = 11 Aug 1938 Parklawn cemetery


I can have a peaceful sleep tonight …


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Re: Alfred Drury - where did he get to?
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 17 April 21 09:37 BST (UK) »
Oh my - very very well done.  Looks like that's him.

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Re: Alfred Drury - where did he get to?
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 17 April 21 09:49 BST (UK) »
Fantastic work! ;D

So he was carefully hiding himself in view of the wife desertion in Australia.
It is interesting that he married so close to his death date.

Sue

 
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Re: Alfred Drury - where did he get to?
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 17 April 21 13:23 BST (UK) »
We have just got home from watching our Aussie rules football team "The Bulldogs" win their 5th straight match out of 5 played this season.   To find that Albert's death has been uncovered has topped off a great night.  My wife is extremely happy with the find. Thank you Tree Spirit.  Albert Drury's sister is my wife's relation.    I don't think Albert would have left Australia until his inheritance was paid in 1908 after his mother died. Perhaps he was in very poor health when they married and therefore not too concerned about committing bigamy?  Alice may have found it easier to access his estate as a legal wife in those days, hence the reason they did marry? who knows??
  Anyhow, we now have what we were seeking, so thank you all who contributed especially Tree Spirit.