John McKinnon

[MonicaL]

This is likely John living with his grandmother in 1881:

Rebecca Sinclair 55 Keeping Bakers Shop     
Mary Sinclair 34    
Agnes Sinclair 15
Daniel McKinnon 10 Grandson
John McKinnon 8 Grandson
James McKinnon 6 Grandson
Rebecca McKinnon 4 Grandaughter

Address: 4 Underwood St , Paisley

So, John's mum a Sinclair and father John McKinnon?

Monica

[Tickettyboo]

I had some credits going spare so look on SP

1872 Births in the District of Abbey, burgh of Paisley

John McKinnon
17 May 1872 at 3.30 am, at 3 Christie Street Paisley
Father John McKinnon, blacksmith
Mother Margaret McKinnon, MS Sinclair
(parents married 29 April 1870, Paisley
Registered by John McKinnon (father) of 9 Incle St, present at the birth

So looks like he was born at Granny's house and Granny was still at the same address (or at least the same street) in 1901 when the In Memoriam notice was published in the Newcastle Evening Chronicle.

If Westmoreland has the marriage cert from 1895, that should give occupations for both the groom and his father and that info could well confirm/ deny that these records are for the right man.

It 'feels' right to me, but much as I like the feeling I'd also want some sort of documentary evidence to be sure.

Boo

[MonicaL]

The info that you have found has opened the door 

Next stage, as you say, is a check on the marriage from 1895.

Daniel Sinclair and Rebecca Whyte married (or banns) on 28 June 1845 in Paisley

Their 1861 census entry includes a daughter Margaret:

Daniel Sinclair 45 blacksmith
Rebecca White 37    
Mary Sinclair 14
Margret Sinclair 12
Daniel Sinclair 10
Jessie Sinclair 8
James Sinclair 6
Rebbeca Sinclair 3

Monica

[MonicaL]

Margaret, mother died young, explains why children with grandmother:

Margaret SINCLAIR/MCKINNON
Age 29
Mother's maiden name WHITE
1878
559/1 108
Abbey Burgh/Renfrewshire

Monica

[Tickettyboo]

Marriage transcript on Family Search

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXGY-V1F

confirms that the groom was a soldier :-) So its looking more and more likely.

Note for Westmoreland, if you don't have the marriage cert,  the FS film number shows that this marriage took place at Christ Church Gateshead.

Given that the transcript gives a date, Durham Record Office will, via their Quick Search facility (order and pay online) provide a scan from their microfilm by email for £5, which is a lot cheaper than a GRO cert.

Boo

[MonicaL]

Just wanted to add the 1871 census entry for the John McKinnon and Margaret Sinclair we have looked at:

John McKinnon 28 general smith b. Anan Buteshire (likely Arran)
Margaret McKinnon 22 b. Greenock, Renfrewshire
Daniel McKinnon 5 months

Address: 69 Back Sneddon St, Paisley

Monica

[Westmoreland]

Thanks everybody I left out some info so I could weed out the wheat from the chaff, but yes his father was john and also a Blacksmith, I cannot find a death for John as Margaret Ann  Weds Edwin Lillie this is how I know about Eva but where is She
but again many thanks
Westmorland

[Tickettyboo]

Thanks everybody I left out some info so I could weed out the wheat from the chaff, but yes his father was john and also a Blacksmith, I cannot find a death for John as Margaret Ann  Weds Edwin Lillie this is how I know about Eva but where is She
but again many thanks
Westmorland

Your original post indicated that you were looking for records of John McKinnon after his marriage so that his wife Margaret was then free to marry Edwin Lillie. You gave no real info about John for us to work with.

We, between us, have given you a quite plausible (but would need to be confirmed with documentation) timeline to show he died in 1900, in South Africa.
Do you agree its plausible? Do you have their marriage record? Have you looked at any of the records we have mentioned?
Do the replies you have had fall into your category of wheat - or of chaff?

Boo

[Westmoreland]

Hi, yes everything fits but I still cannot find the family in 1901, at least I now know that there are answers out there I had used bmd and findmypast and was starting to bang my head, but we also had a John snr. born 1850 in Dalry who would have fitted, but again I can only doff my cap at the amazing people on this site
regards
Westmorland