Henry Smith born 1890 Tredegar

[RayDen]

I have a Henry Smith born 1890 Tredegar:

Name Henry Smith
Registration Year         1890
Registration Quarter     Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district      BedwelltyInferred CountyMonmouthshire
Volume  11a
Page      105

From the GRO index MMN Williams

Henry was the son of Charles Henry Smith and Harriet Williams.

I have him on the 1891 census:

Name:   Henry Smith
Age:   1
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1890
Relation:   Son
Father's Name:   Henry Smith
Mother's Name:   Harriet Smith
Gender:   Male
Where born:   Tredegar, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil Parish:   Bedwellty
Ecclesiastical parish:   Tredegar
Town:   Tredegar
Registration District:   Bedwellty
Sub registration district:   Tredegar
Piece:   4355
Folio:   26
Page Number:   9

Household Members:   
Name           Age
Henry Smith   45
Harriet Smith   38
William Smith   22
James Smith   20
Rose Smith   16
Phillipina Smith   16
Hopelind Smith   4
Henry Smith   1
Mary Williams   63

Mother Harriet died 1895.  I have found most of the other children on future census but not Henry, would welcome any help.  I do have after 1911 (marriage, 39 Register, death, children, etc.)

I also don't have father Henry (usually Charles Henry) born 1846 Germany on the 1901 census, but do have a possible death in 1907. Would also welcome assistance with Charles Henry. I have Charles Henry from the 1871 census.

Ray

[heywood]

There is this entry:

1901 5110/115/10
St Ishmael, Carmarthen

Henry Schimdt 57 yrs widower b Germany

He is described as a General Workman

There are other possible candidates for this person though in earlier censuses.

[heywood]

Where is your first sighting of young Henry after 1891?

[RayDen]

I have a court case in Neath in 1914, which I believe is him, Name, age, place of birth and occupation (shoemaker).:

Name          Henry Smith
Age             24
Birth Year     1890
Birth Place   Tredegar
Committal Date    6 Apr 1914
Committal Place   Neath CCt,
Wales  Discharge Date   12 Apr 1914
Location   Swansea Prison

He had accumulated debt.  He got 7 days or to pay 7 shillings and 9 pence. Obviously could'nt afford that!! 

I do then have a possible army record of a pension ledger card, but not exactly sure.

I then have a marriage in 1922 in Pontypridd to a Rose Richmond and the 1939 register. The date of birth given on the 1939 register 19 June 1890 matches only the one registered Henry Smith born in either Monmouthshire or Glamorganshire.

[osprey]

have you checked if he is with any of his siblings in 1901 & 1911.

1901 Hopesina is with married sister Phillipina in Llanwonno
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSMV-28P 

[RayDen]

Thanks Osprey, yes have tried all siblings,