Author Topic: Golden Wedding Menu For Sale on eBay. Mr & Mrs Richard Tilling of Lambeth  (Read 1808 times)

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Not a request for myself, but hopefully of interest to someone out there.

I was looking for images of Lambeth on eBay and spotted this new listing, "Original Framed Glazed Golden Wedding, Richard Tilling Lambeth London 1895".

The couple were married at St Mary's Lambeth 1845 and celebrated their anniversary at The Bridge House Hotel, London Bridge Saturday 28th September 1895.

I realised that if this had been an ancestor of mine, I would have been so excited to find this on eBay which is why I am writing this post in case someone on this site is researching this line.


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Wales: Pugh, Watkins, Williams, Edwards,
London: Binden, Sullivan, Tickner, Tilt
Ireland: Tracey, Sullivan, Dalton

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Re: Golden Wedding Menu For Sale on eBay. Mr & Mrs Richard Tilling of Lambeth
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 20 April 21 10:21 BST (UK) »
That is kind of you .
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Re: Golden Wedding Menu For Sale on eBay. Mr & Mrs Richard Tilling of Lambeth
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 20 April 21 17:40 BST (UK) »
How fascinating.  There is a little snippet in the Kentish Mercury 27th September 1895 which states:-

GOLDEN WEDDING
TILLING - MILLER September 28th 1845 at St. Mary's Lambeth, by the Rev. Leigh Spencer, Richard Tilling to Mary Ann, only daughter of William and Charlotte Miller.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Golden Wedding Menu For Sale on eBay. Mr & Mrs Richard Tilling of Lambeth
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 20 April 21 17:53 BST (UK) »
I reckon I have found the relevant couple in 1891 transcribed as Silling!  Not too surprised having looked at the image.

Richard is a printer born 1821

Registration district   Lewisham
Archive reference   RG12
Piece number   521
Folio   41
Page   10

This looks to be them in 1851 with two children.

Richard is a Printer Compositor, so kept that all through his working life.

Registration District   St George Southwark
Sub District   Kent Road
Enumeration District   19
Schedule   156
Series   HO107
Piece number   1563
Folio   535
Page   38

Looks like he died in 1905

Deaths Jun 1905 
Tilling    Richard    84    Lewisham    1d   554

Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire


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Re: Golden Wedding Menu For Sale on eBay. Mr & Mrs Richard Tilling of Lambeth
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 20 April 21 20:15 BST (UK) »
Richard and Mary Ann are in a lot of trees on Anc but they all seem very light so no-one obvious to ping a message to about this. Bit of shame.

There's quite a bit to find in the newspapers about Richard; couple of pertinent items below. And they both left sizeable estates too.

Kentish Mercury
13 May 1904
Obituary
- funeral took place yesterday at Nunhead Cemetery
- of Mrs May Ann Tilling
- wife of Mr Richard Tilling
- of 136 Court Hill Road, Lewisham,
- whose death occurred on Sunday at the age of 76
- the first portion of the service was gone through at St Switham's, Hither Green

Globe
21 Jun 1905
Deaths
Tilling
- on 18th inst.,
- at his residence, 136, Court Hill, Lewisham,
- Richard Tilling,
- of 106, Great Dover Street, SE,
- in his 85th year


Probate index:
Mary Ann Tilling
of 136 Court Hill Road, Lewisham, Kent
wife or Richard Tilling
died 8 May 1904
Probate
to said Richard Tilling, printer
and George Tilling, solicitor
Effects £3,519
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=tilling&yearOfDeath=1904&page=1#calendar
    
Probate index:
Richard Tilling
of 30 Court Hill Road, Lewisham, Kent
of 106 Great Dover Street, Newington, Surrey
and of 55 Warner Street, Southwark, Surrey
died 18 Jun 1905
at 136 Court Hill Road
Probate
to George Tilling, solicitor
Effects £24,384
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=tilling&yearOfDeath=1905#calendar
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Re: Golden Wedding Menu For Sale on eBay. Mr & Mrs Richard Tilling of Lambeth
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 20 April 21 20:21 BST (UK) »
That was a lot of money, this is what £24K would be worth today:-

£ 2,945,026.34
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Golden Wedding Menu For Sale on eBay. Mr & Mrs Richard Tilling of Lambeth
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 20 April 21 20:26 BST (UK) »
Seven children are listed in the 1861 census.

Registration district   St George Southwark
Enumeration district   16
Archive reference   RG09
Piece number   329
Folio   210
Page   41

Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Golden Wedding Menu For Sale on eBay. Mr & Mrs Richard Tilling of Lambeth
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 20 April 21 20:37 BST (UK) »
I think there's possibly quite a few children:

1847 Q1: Mary Charlotte Tilling (mmn: Miller); City Of London; 02; 199
1849 Q1: Richard Wood Tilling (mmn: Miller); Lambeth; 04; 290
1851 Q2: George Tilling (mmn: Miller); St George The Martyr Southwark; 04; 496
1853 Q4: William Henry Tilling (mmn: Miller); St George The Martyr Southwark; 01D; 120
1855 Q4: Hannah Tilling (mmn: Miller); St George The Martyr Southwark; 01D; 123
1858 Q1: Frederick Francis Tilling (mmn: Miller); St George The Martyr Southwark; 01D; 130
1860 Q2: Emma Woodhatch Tilling (mmn: Miller); St George Southwark; 01D; 113
1862 Q1: Albert Sizeland Tilling (mmn: Miller); St George Southwark; 01D; 135
1864 Q4: Laura Ellen Tilling (mmn: Miller); St George Southwark; 01D; 120
1867 Q1: Walter James Tilling (mmn: Miller); St George Southwark; 01D; 131
1868 Q4: Alfred Arthur Tilling (mmn: Miller); St George Southwark; 01D; 141
1870 Q2: Alfred Richard Tilling (mmn: Miller); Saint Saviour Surrey; 01D; 39
1871 Q2: Jane Florence Tilling (mmn: Miller); Saint Saviour Surrey; 01D; 41
1873 Q1: Richard Tilling (mmn: Miller); Saint Saviour Surrey; 01D; 45


There's 9 children on the 1871 census:

1871: Warner Street, Saint George the Martyr, Southwark
Richard & Mary Ann, +9 children
Ref RG10; Piece 601; Folio 92; Page 14
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Re: Golden Wedding Menu For Sale on eBay. Mr & Mrs Richard Tilling of Lambeth
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 20 April 21 20:47 BST (UK) »
That's a lot of children to do research on!

I have in fact book marked that Golden Wedding picture in order to bid on it and hopefully succeed.  I don't intend to try and find descendants, that would be a marathon task  :o

Which family history society do you think would be best to approach re offering it to them for their records? That's assuming that I get the picture!

I don't do social media so wouldn't be able to do anything via that.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire