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Joseph Lambert 7th Dragoon Guards 1800-1821
« on: Wednesday 21 April 21 21:13 BST (UK) »
I am posting here, as I think the military connection is the clue towards the information.
Joseph Lambert was born in West Bromwich 1780, married Mary and had 5 children 1810 to 1828.  Two of the children were baptised in Roman Catholic Churches, which gave Mary’s maiden name as Dillan/Dillon.  I would like to know more about Mary, birth, parents, marriage.  1841 census gives her birth as Scotland, age 45.  Their second child was baptised in Scotland, the other 4 were Baptised in Birmingham, but all at different Churches.  The best/only birth match I can find is Rerrick, near Kirkcudbright (Mary Dalling 1796).
Joseph was in the 7th Dragoon Guards.  They seemed to travel between Ireland, Manchester, Birmingham and Edinburgh during his years, 1800 - 1821.  Would someone like to try and piece together the jigsaw?
Davis - Worcestershire
Dobson - Bucks/Essex
Longfield - Yorkshire/Newcastle
Franklin - Lincs/Yorks border
Exelby - Yorkshire
Chapman - Cambridgeshire
Aitken - Fife/Lincolnshire
Harrison - Yorkshire
Palfreman - Yorkshire

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Re: Joseph Lambert 7th Dragoon Guards 1800-1821
« Reply #1 on: Friday 23 April 21 11:07 BST (UK) »
Hello Kath,
Just as a starter, all those locations that you mention had “cavalry barracks” during the period that interests you:
Ireland (Dundalk Barracks)
Manchester (Hulme Barracks)
Birmingham (Brook St Barracks)
Edinburgh (Piershill Barracks)
These were all stations of the 7th Dragoon Guards, as regiments moved periodically (generally after just a year at that time) for reasons of recruitment and to prevent their men from becoming overly settled in their ways.

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Re: Joseph Lambert 7th Dragoon Guards 1800-1821
« Reply #2 on: Friday 23 April 21 11:37 BST (UK) »
7th Dragoon Guards were in Ireland for several years before sailing back from Dublin to Liverpool in June 1809. From newspaper mentions it appears they stayed in Liverpool for a while before moving to Birmingham in May 1810.

Perhaps your Mary was the daughter of a fellow soldier?
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Re: Joseph Lambert 7th Dragoon Guards 1800-1821
« Reply #3 on: Friday 23 April 21 11:40 BST (UK) »
There was a Robert Dillon/Dillun in 7th Dragoon Guards. Enlisted in 1798.

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FWO119%2F0040%2F001_021&parentid=GBM%2FWO119%2F27476
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Re: Joseph Lambert 7th Dragoon Guards 1800-1821
« Reply #4 on: Friday 23 April 21 11:49 BST (UK) »
7th Dragoon Guards were in Ireland for several years before sailing back from Dublin to Liverpool in June 1809. From newspaper mentions it appears they stayed in Liverpool for a while before moving to Birmingham in May 1810.

Perhaps your Mary was the daughter of a fellow soldier?

Before the Rupert Lane Cavalry Barracks was built at Everton in 1830, one or two troops of cavalry were based at nearby St Domingo House. This was at a time when cavalry regiments were sent to a region and their sub-units (Troops) dispersed to various small barracks in the surrounding area to act in support of the civil powers, e.g. in 1807 the 4th Dragoon Guards had their HQ in Brook Rd Cavalry Bks, Birmingham, 1 Troop in Hulme Bks, Manchester, 1 Troop in St Domingo House, Liverpool, 2 Troops in Nottingham, 1 Troop in Chester, 1 Troop in Warrington and 1 Troop in Coventry. This was at a time of great industrial unrest and rioting with the mounted troops acting as police.  I think that the 7th DG were probably dispersed similarly at that time.

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Re: Joseph Lambert 7th Dragoon Guards 1800-1821
« Reply #5 on: Friday 23 April 21 13:51 BST (UK) »
Thank you both very much. Some answers there.  Landing in Liverpool from Ireland rules out the Rerrick birth.  I had considered about Mary being the daughter of a fellow soldier, but hadn't found anyone, this Robert fits well - if we put her birth nearer 1800 than 1796, although even this isn't impossible.  I cannot make out Robert's birth from the attached document, unless it is Birmingham, much abbreviate.  I think I am now looking for a marriage in Ireland! 

Again many thanks both for your interest and useful responses.
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Davis - Worcestershire
Dobson - Bucks/Essex
Longfield - Yorkshire/Newcastle
Franklin - Lincs/Yorks border
Exelby - Yorkshire
Chapman - Cambridgeshire
Aitken - Fife/Lincolnshire
Harrison - Yorkshire
Palfreman - Yorkshire

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Re: Joseph Lambert 7th Dragoon Guards 1800-1821
« Reply #6 on: Friday 23 April 21 13:56 BST (UK) »
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I cannot make out Robert's birth from the attached document

Birr, Kings County (Offaly)

Pension records suggest he died in Toronto in 1847
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Re: Joseph Lambert 7th Dragoon Guards 1800-1821
« Reply #7 on: Friday 23 April 21 19:08 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for that.  I do hope this is the right person, I would love to tell my husband he is of Irish stock!  The best I can manage is a Step Great Grandfather! Still can't find a birth/baptism for Mary, which of course would be a great help. 
Kath 
Davis - Worcestershire
Dobson - Bucks/Essex
Longfield - Yorkshire/Newcastle
Franklin - Lincs/Yorks border
Exelby - Yorkshire
Chapman - Cambridgeshire
Aitken - Fife/Lincolnshire
Harrison - Yorkshire
Palfreman - Yorkshire

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Re: Joseph Lambert 7th Dragoon Guards 1800-1821
« Reply #8 on: Friday 23 April 21 22:43 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for that.  I do hope this is the right person, I would love to tell my husband he is of Irish stock!  The best I can manage is a Step Great Grandfather! Still can't find a birth/baptism for Mary, which of course would be a great help. 
Kath

Birr was a military town of long standing, I wonder if his father was also a soldier.