Author Topic: Family of Samuel HOLLY, Isleworth, 1614 - 1636  (Read 153 times)

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Family of Samuel HOLLY, Isleworth, 1614 - 1636
« on: Thursday 22 April 21 23:09 BST (UK) »
I'm interested in any records of the following family that lived in Isleworth, Middlesex:

Samuel Holly (or Holley or Hollie),
Elizabeth Holly (nee Wise), m. All Saints, Isleworth, 1624/5
John Holly (bapt. 1621, son of Samuel and his first wife Rebecca Whitby)

Last known record, death of Philip Holly, 1629, son of Samuel and Elizabeth

It's possible this family departed for the US colonies 1635-1639.

FYI I have the relevant birth and marriage records from this time period; I'm especially interested in any land, probate or court record if available.

Thank you.

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Re: Family of Samuel HOLLY, Isleworth, 1614 - 1636
« Reply #1 on: Friday 23 April 21 07:50 BST (UK) »

I'm especially interested in any land, probate or court record if available.


Have you looked on the national archives website
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Re: Family of Samuel HOLLY, Isleworth, 1614 - 1636
« Reply #2 on: Friday 23 April 21 15:50 BST (UK) »
I have but haven't found anything for these individuals.  Having said that, most of the results I've seen in searching the "catalogue" are wills/probates, with the occasional lawsuit. I really haven't seen any land records, I believe they're held elsewhere?  And is it also the case that most wills/probates are held at lower courts, many of which aren't in the national archives database?


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Re: Family of Samuel HOLLY, Isleworth, 1614 - 1636
« Reply #3 on: Friday 23 April 21 17:27 BST (UK) »
They have records regarding land ownership etc on their indexes including some of those held by the LMA.  Perhaps your family did not own land.

This may answer your query on wills
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/wills-1384-1858/
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Re: Family of Samuel HOLLY, Isleworth, 1614 - 1636
« Reply #4 on: Friday 23 April 21 18:10 BST (UK) »
Yes, that's what I was referring to about wills/probates.

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Re: Family of Samuel HOLLY, Isleworth, 1614 - 1636
« Reply #5 on: Friday 23 April 21 21:10 BST (UK) »
There are no quick fixes for this, and you're unlikely to find much online.

Your best bet may be look at the manor court rolls for Isleworth. These will contain names of the people who were freeholders, leaseholders or tenants of property that came into the manor’s jurisdiction. The court rolls are the formal records of the manor’s property transactions, so plenty of ‘ordinary’ people will be named there, as well as the more prominent land-owners.

For the 1600s, the Manorial Documents Register (https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/manor-search) shows rolls for two separate manors covering Isleworth – Isleworth itself and Isleworth Rectory. These records are split between London Metropolitan Archives (LMA) and St George's Chapel Archives, Windsor.

LMA
https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/history-and-heritage/london-metropolitan-archives

Windsor
https://www.stgeorges-windsor.org/archives/user-services/

A first step would be to contact both archives and ask if there is any indexing for these manorial records. If so, when the archives re-open, you will probably need to engage someone to visit and research on your behalf. If there is no indexing, it could be an exceedingly lengthy task to read through the rolls. But it’s a possible way forward.

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Re: Family of Samuel HOLLY, Isleworth, 1614 - 1636
« Reply #6 on: Friday 23 April 21 21:25 BST (UK) »
That is excellent advice.  I see that I came to the right place, thanks very much.