Death of John Barclay

[Dannemois]

Seeking help to find the death of John Barclay.

John Barclay widower occupation Miller, married Elisabeth Isbister in Edinburgh on 6 June 1862. He was aged 48, she 33.  In 1871, they were residing at 4 Rollo Place, Leith, John aged 58, Elizabeth 41, son from his first marriage Adam 21, James 8, Elisabeth 6, Thomas 4 and Mary Ann aged 2. 
According to son Thomas Barclay’s death certificate in 1885, father John Barclay was deceased.  A search on Scotlandspeople using every various search option possible for death between years 1871-85 but no record found.  His mother’s maiden name was Howden (sometimes Houden).  Elizabeth Barclay, the widow of John Barclay, Flour Miller, died at Leith on 9 December 1895, aged 67 years.  Informant James Barclay, son.  Her parents were named Thomas Isbister and Marjory (m.s. Leith). 

Possible 1881         1891
Leith South 692/2 20/41   Leith South 692/2 27/30
Elisabeth Barclay 52      Elizabeth Barclay 62
Leith South 692/2 20/42   Mary Ann 22
James Barclay 17      Isabella 19
Thomas 14
Mary Ann 12
Isabella 09

 
Regards, Roy

[ColC]

BARCLAY   ADAM DAVIDSON JOHN BARCLAY/HELEN DAVIDSON    31/03/1850   Duddingston

1851 Abode John Barclay's, Duddingston

BARCLAY   John   Head   M   M   38   Miller's Journeyman   MLN   St Cuthberts      
DAVIDSON Helen   Wife   M   F   38   Miller's Wife   MLN   Cockpen      
BARCLAY   Margaret   Dau   -   F   13   Scholar   MLN   Corstorphine      
BARCLAY   Jane H.   Dau   -   F   11   Scholar   MLN   Colinton      
BARCLAY   John           Son   -   M   9   Scholar   MLN   Colinton      
BARCLAY   Robert D.   Son   -   M   7   Scholar   MLN   Duddingston      
BARCLAY   Andrew D.   Son   -   M   5   Scholar   WLN   Dalmeny      
BARCLAY   Helen D.   Dau   -   F   3      MLN   Duddingston      
BARCLAY   Adam D.   Son   -   M   1      MLN   Duddingston      

Death I wonder?
BARCLAY   JOHN   Died 64   Mmn WILSON   1877   Duddingston Landward


Colin

[Dannemois]

Hi Colin

John Barclay and his family were in Duddingston 1851 as you rightly say.   They relocated to Dalkeith by 1861 and it was there his first wife Helen died.  He later remarried and a further move took him to Leith and as far as the rest of the family are concerned, settled there. 

[dowdstree]

The death Colin mentioned is well worth a look. There was another daughter Isabella born on 26/3/1872 in Duddingston and the parents are correct (couldn't resist a look) birth registered by her father.

Depending on who registered the 1877 death for John Barclay they could have his mother's maiden name totally wrong. It happened often.

Dorrie

[dowdstree]

Meant to say Leith is only around 3 miles from Duddingston.

Dorrie

[Dannemois]

Hello Dorrie

You will note I have the daughter Isabella born (1872) on the 1881 census and 1891 census (Scotlands people) on my opening query.  I will give Colin's suggestion a go. 

Regards, Roy

[rosie17]

Think it's worth looking at Roy


Rosie

[Dannemois]

Just downloaded the death cert for John Barclay, except for the mother's maiden surname (Wilson) all else fits.  The informant was son George and surprised at the error given that Howden (John Barclay's mother's m.s.) features a number of times through the generations.   That said on the marriage certificate of John Barclay to Elisabeth Isbister, her father was named Robert when in fact he was Thomas.   

Many thanks, Colin for the suggestion, to Dorrie and Rosie for prompting me to take a look.

Kind Regards, Roy

[rosie17]

Glad it was the right one Roy 

Rosie