Author Topic: Gabbett Needham and Sarah Kirwan  (Read 1419 times)

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Re: Gabbett Needham and Sarah Kirwan
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 24 April 21 15:06 BST (UK) »
Find my Past indexes (do not have access) shows Dublin Workhouse records 1880 and 1881
Gabbett Needham  b 1816
Gabbitt Needham b 1821

There is a death for James  ::) Needham 60yrs Carpenter but it is in the workhouse so no address.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1882/06404/4839020.pdf

I’ll stop now - just intrigued with the name. ;)
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Re: Gabbett Needham and Sarah Kirwan
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 24 April 21 17:34 BST (UK) »
Thanks again.  The 2 links you gave are to copies that I discovered years ago,  through Rootschat, and if you decipher the witness names you will notice that Gabbett has a fairly definite 'G' and the other is indistinct as a 'G', more like a Y or S or J, hence the many interpretations.  However, the other witness is William Gregston and the written form is indistinct also, as if written by someone who has only heard it spoken and not written.
Gabbett is still the favourite though I will check on all possible cases of Gilbert and other soundalikes, just in case.
John Cathcart is described as a House Servant and his father given as William, a Slater.  Ann Bowles has a sister Catherine who marries in 1858 to a Butler, Robert Wilson, son of a farmer.
John and Ann move to Preston, Lancashire and she dies in 1850.  John remarries in 1853 to Jane Dickinson and notes his father as a Gardener (deceased). He marries again at Lancaster in 1882 and says his father is a farmer.
Mistakes or fibs? Who really knows.  John's son James marries in 1874 in Isle of Wight and claims his father is dead, but John is still alive, although by 1881 James claims to really be James Wilson, so perhaps his biological father was Mr.Wilson of Broughton where Jane Dickinson was a Nursery maid in 1851.  The quest for the truth continues ... cheers, Ian
Norfolk, Nelsons of Gt Ryburgh, Gooch, Howman, COLLISONS,  Ainger, Couzens, Batrick (Norfolk & Dorset), Tubby ( also of Yorkshire) Cathcarts of Ireland, Lancashire & Isle of Wight) Dickinsons of Morecambe and Lancaster, Wilson of Poulton-le-Sands and Broughton.  Wilson - Ffrance of Rawcliffe,  Mitchells of Isle of Wight. Hair of Ayrshire, Williamson of Tradeston, Glasgow. Nelsons in Australia with Haywards Heath connections.