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Edward Hanley & Mary Tracey
« on: Sunday 25 April 21 14:35 BST (UK) »
Edward Hanley & Mary Tracey were the parents of Margaret Hanley who married James Kimber 23.Oct 1876 St Michaels,Stockport,Cheshire.
Edward Hanley was a Schoolmaster according to what I found but it does not mention the actual place in Ireland where both he and Mary Tracey were born.
Their eldest daughter Julia was also born 1851 in Ireland.I dont know when they moved to UK.

Other children are : Margaret b.26th Jan 1855 Stockport,Mary b.1858,Winifred b.1861,Edward b.1863,
Patrick b.1865,Elizabeth b.1868

Any information which can help me to move further with this family prior to moving to UK.will be very useful.
Lancashire- Moss,Broadbent,Olley,Dobson,Dickenson,
Norfolk-Olley,Knowles,Bunn,Pooley,Scott,Vince
Caithness & Dumfries - Evans,Sinclair,Mackay
Belfast-Antrim - Mackay,Connor,Bunting
Liverpool,Wigan & Southport - Ball,Taylor
Isle of Man - Harp,Dougherty
Cheshire - Dickenson
Knighton,Radnorshire - Evans, Broadhurst
Caithness - Sinclair

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Re: Edward Hanley & Mary Tracey
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 27 April 21 09:48 BST (UK) »
Have you got an idea of the dates of birth of Edward Hanley and Mary Tracey? You can this from the age at death on their death certificates. Also apx ages can be found from the English census records.

Not sure where you have looked thus far but there are spelling variations to both of these surnames that I have found/seen

Hanly
Handley
Handly
Also
Tracey
Treacey
Treacy
Tracy

This site is a great source of information but you really need apx birth dates to search successfully.

https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/

I have found a birth in Dublin in 1830 of a Mary Tracy to a Mary & Patrick Tracy.....

DUBLIN (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. MARY, PRO CATHEDRAL

Baptism of MARY TRACY of SUMR HILL on 27 January 1830


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Re: Edward Hanley & Mary Tracey
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 27 April 21 09:58 BST (UK) »
There looks to have been an Ellen bApril 1852 in Stockport area too:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JS1F-Z9J

so move had to be between 1851 birth and 1852 birth.
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Re: Edward Hanley & Mary Tracey
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 27 April 21 10:43 BST (UK) »
There looks to have been an Ellen bApril 1852 in Stockport area too:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JS1F-Z9J

so move had to be between 1851 birth and 1852 birth.

This is very useful information indeed & thank you so much
Lancashire- Moss,Broadbent,Olley,Dobson,Dickenson,
Norfolk-Olley,Knowles,Bunn,Pooley,Scott,Vince
Caithness & Dumfries - Evans,Sinclair,Mackay
Belfast-Antrim - Mackay,Connor,Bunting
Liverpool,Wigan & Southport - Ball,Taylor
Isle of Man - Harp,Dougherty
Cheshire - Dickenson
Knighton,Radnorshire - Evans, Broadhurst
Caithness - Sinclair

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Re: Edward Hanley & Mary Tracey
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 27 April 21 10:46 BST (UK) »
Have you got an idea of the dates of birth of Edward Hanley and Mary Tracey? You can this from the age at death on their death certificates. Also apx ages can be found from the English census records.

Not sure where you have looked thus far but there are spelling variations to both of these surnames that I have found/seen

Hanly
Handley
Handly
Also
Tracey
Treacey
Treacy
Tracy

This site is a great source of information but you really need apx birth dates to search successfully.

https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/

I have found a birth in Dublin in 1830 of a Mary Tracy to a Mary & Patrick Tracy.....

DUBLIN (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. MARY, PRO CATHEDRAL

Baptism of MARY TRACY of SUMR HILL on 27 January 1830

Thank you so much,This is very useful information & I so appreciate you sending me the site for Irish Genealogy.
They maybe able to help me with their journey to live in the UK.
Lancashire- Moss,Broadbent,Olley,Dobson,Dickenson,
Norfolk-Olley,Knowles,Bunn,Pooley,Scott,Vince
Caithness & Dumfries - Evans,Sinclair,Mackay
Belfast-Antrim - Mackay,Connor,Bunting
Liverpool,Wigan & Southport - Ball,Taylor
Isle of Man - Harp,Dougherty
Cheshire - Dickenson
Knighton,Radnorshire - Evans, Broadhurst
Caithness - Sinclair

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Re: Edward Hanley & Mary Tracey
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 06 May 21 18:30 BST (UK) »
there are only three entries for any Edward Hanley in the tithes Applotment books
see http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=hanley&firstname=&county=&parish=&townland=&search=Search
Hanley   Edward   Rathlee   Easky      Sligo   1842
Hanley   Edward   Rathlee   Easky      Sligo   1833
Hanley   Edward   Lackin       Kilglass   Sligo   1833
in case its helps location searches, although if very lucky one could be his father rather than your Edward
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Re: Edward Hanley & Mary Tracey
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 06 May 21 18:56 BST (UK) »
there are only three entries for any Edward Hanley in the tithes Applotment books
see http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=hanley&firstname=&county=&parish=&townland=&search=Search
Hanley   Edward   Rathlee   Easky      Sligo   1842
Hanley   Edward   Rathlee   Easky      Sligo   1833
Hanley   Edward   Lackin       Kilglass   Sligo   1833
in case its helps location searches, although if very lucky one could be his father rather than your Edward
Thank you for this info,hopefully the Edward Hanley I am looking for is one of these or as you say maybe his father.I will try to see how far I get with your information.I am very grateful to you.
Lancashire- Moss,Broadbent,Olley,Dobson,Dickenson,
Norfolk-Olley,Knowles,Bunn,Pooley,Scott,Vince
Caithness & Dumfries - Evans,Sinclair,Mackay
Belfast-Antrim - Mackay,Connor,Bunting
Liverpool,Wigan & Southport - Ball,Taylor
Isle of Man - Harp,Dougherty
Cheshire - Dickenson
Knighton,Radnorshire - Evans, Broadhurst
Caithness - Sinclair

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Re: Edward Hanley & Mary Tracey
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 06 May 21 20:13 BST (UK) »
Couple of points to possibly help. Edward appears on the 1851 aged 36 census as below.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG2S-PW9

The daughter Anner (image looks like ONNER) who appears aged 2 is in fact as below

HANLY, HONORA       mother's maiden name TRACY 
GRO Reference: 1849  M Quarter in STOCKPORT  Volume 19  Page 278--Heaton Norris comes under the Stockport registration district.

Quote:Their eldest daughter Julia was also born 1851 in Ireland.I dont know when they moved to UK.

According to the 1851 census Julia is aged 4(1846/7) so the move to the Uk can be narrowed down to between c1847-mq 1851 when Honora was born.

Edwards age jumps 20 years between 1851-61 but Mary's is consistent 22 then 32 and loses 4 years in 1871 when she is 38.

Seemingly Mary is a widow on 1871 census. A daughter Alice is born sq 1871 so Mary was probably pregnant with Alice at time of census. Cannot find at present a death for Edward as yet, and was Alice Edward's daughter?

HANLEY, ALICE       mmn  TRACY 
GRO Reference: 1871  S Quarter in STOCKPORT  Volume 08A  Page 70

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Re: Edward Hanley & Mary Tracey
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 06 May 21 20:35 BST (UK) »
Couple of points to possibly help. Edward appears on the 1851 aged 36 census as below.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG2S-PW9

The daughter Anner (image looks like ONNER) who appears aged 2 is in fact as below

HANLY, HONORA       mother's maiden name TRACY 
GRO Reference: 1849  M Quarter in STOCKPORT  Volume 19  Page 278--Heaton Norris comes under the Stockport registration district.

Quote:Their eldest daughter Julia was also born 1851 in Ireland.I dont know when they moved to UK.

According to the 1851 census Julia is aged 4(1846/7) so the move to the Uk can be narrowed down to between c1847-mq 1851 when Honora was born.

Edwards age jumps 20 years between 1851-61 but Mary's is consistent 22 then 32 and loses 4 years in 1871 when she is 38.

Seemingly Mary is a widow on 1871 census. A daughter Alice is born sq 1871 so Mary was probably pregnant with Alice at time of census. Cannot find at present a death for Edward as yet, and was Alice Edward's daughter?

HANLEY, ALICE       mmn  TRACY 
GRO Reference: 1871  S Quarter in STOCKPORT  Volume 08A  Page 70

John
I too have been looking at this family on Family Search & noticed how their ages change from time to time.Very confusing to say the least.Thank you for your info
Lancashire- Moss,Broadbent,Olley,Dobson,Dickenson,
Norfolk-Olley,Knowles,Bunn,Pooley,Scott,Vince
Caithness & Dumfries - Evans,Sinclair,Mackay
Belfast-Antrim - Mackay,Connor,Bunting
Liverpool,Wigan & Southport - Ball,Taylor
Isle of Man - Harp,Dougherty
Cheshire - Dickenson
Knighton,Radnorshire - Evans, Broadhurst
Caithness - Sinclair