John crawley

[Milliepede]

Found Johana birth I think under Crowley

Johannah Crowley Dec 1848 Saint Pancras mothers name Shay

[Milliepede]

And there's a John Crowley born Mar 1853 with mothers name Shay

and a corresponding death in Mar 1853 under Crawley

so it seems Crowley is a spelling to look out for.

Also I was wondering as she was Irish whether Ann (if we have the right children) was O'Shay or O'Shea.

Permutations to try anyway.

[philrmoon]

Hi again

Thanks for your reply

I will see if i can find something else out

If only i could find hannah's mothers name ( mothers maiden name )

Best wishes Phil

[Milliepede]

So do you think Hannah had a different mother to the other children then?

 

[philrmoon]

Hi its possible

Because cannot find them in 1851

Looking at the information in 1861

Dennis is 16

Johana is 12

Ellen is 10

And hannah is 8

I understand you can't be sure of ages but you would think i should have found something in 1851 ??

Regards Phil

[jonw65]

Admissions to St Pancras workhouse, 12 March 1857
Mary Crawley 33
Denis Crawley 11
Johannah Crawley 9
Ellen Crawley 7
Abby Crawley 5
From 8(?) Beaumont Place. Not sure if Mary is dittoed as a servant (occupation)

Discharged 14 March 1857
Ann Crawley 43
her children
Denis Crawley 11
Johannah Crawley 9
Ellen Crawley 7
Abbey Crawley 5

So seems to have been a mix up with the mother's details.

Could Abby/Abigail be the same person as Hannah?

Link to image of 1861 census of the Crawleys in St Pancras
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-L3FW-1HYH

There seem to be some missing pages at the beginning of that enumeration district, which is the first in piece 103.

[jonw65]

And there's a John Crowley born Mar 1853 with mothers name Shay

and a corresponding death in Mar 1853 under Crawley

Possible burial at St. Pancras, 20 March 1853
John Crawley
Abode Fitzroy Row
Age 3 months

And FamilySearch has the burial fee book
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G96G-59HJ

[Mabel Bagshawe]

From another 1857 workhouse register Mary's occupation is charring

[philrmoon]

Hi

Thanks everybody thats been caught up in this saga of the Crawley's

So might mary have been ann in 1861

And abby could have been hannah

The ages are a bit different

But i am sure you have the correct ones

Again thanks for all your hard graft

That what i love about this site

GOOD NIGHT