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Re: Gauntletts in Oregon. Where are their UK roots?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 28 April 21 14:44 BST (UK) »
Some of the ancestry trees/family search/Geni have conflicting information.  Some indicate that John H Gauntlett may have had two wives both names Jane ?  Certainly a mine field. Have you seen this one ?
 
William - was William Grant Sharp born 3 March 1850 Peterhead Aberdeen Scotland ?

Father -    William Sharp circa 1832 - Death April 16, 1857 (20-29)
Williamstown, Hobsons Bay City, Victoria, Australia ("apoplexy" )

https://www.geni.com/people/William-Sharp/6000000052961435821

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Re: Gauntletts in Oregon. Where are their UK roots?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 28 April 21 14:47 BST (UK) »

This must be the birth, the above refers to...........

William Grant Sharp - 13 March 1850 - father William Sharp and mother Jane Barclay.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYFZ-G73

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Re: Gauntletts in Oregon. Where are their UK roots?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 28 April 21 15:01 BST (UK) »

Nothing in the obituary for Estella Gauntlett/Mars

The World  Coos Bay, Oregon 11 Sep 1936, Fri   Page 2

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/76638125/obituary-for-estelle-mars-aged-64/

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Re: Gauntletts in Oregon. Where are their UK roots?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 28 April 21 15:08 BST (UK) »

John H Gauntlett
BIRTH ABT 1823 OR 1826 OR 1831 ??? • Scotland or England?
DEATH 7 MAY 1908 • Bandon, Coos, Oregon, USA

Find A Grave clearly shows 1823-1908, but other dates give
 his birth in 1822 and August 1826 in Hampshire England.
and church records showing he was buried from St. John's Episcopal Church (Bandon) by the Rev. William Horsfall, Thursday, May 10, 1906, age "84 years." DMS, Clerk of St. John's.


Find A Grave and the date of death on the stone in the photo are wrong. According to John's death notice in the newspaper, he died 8 May 1906.

Coquille Herald
May 09, 1906

Death: https://www.rootschat.com/links/01qkb/


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Re: Gauntletts in Oregon. Where are their UK roots?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 28 April 21 15:31 BST (UK) »

This must be the birth, the above refers to...........

William Grant Sharp - 13 March 1850 - father William Sharp and mother Jane Barclay.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYFZ-G73

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There is a birth for Jane Barclay 4 February 1834 - Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Scotland.
Christening 11 February 1834

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XBQ6-499

and a marriage of Jane Barclay to a William Sharp 31 December 1848 Peterhead, Aberdeenshire.
Would only make her 14 years old  :-\

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTJH-CJ8

Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839-1923 - William Sharp aged 3 years - departs Glasgow 1853 - Arrival Place Port Phillip Bay, Australia - September 1853. Ship:- Ivanhoe. Jane Sharp travelling same ship.

https://www.geni.com/people/William-Sharp/6000000052961435821

This looks like the death of William Sharp which is quoted in the Geni link.......Victoria, Australia, Coroner Inquest Deposition Files, 1840-1925

Posted here Mark - https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=848085.new#new

Not convinced about this info from Scottish records yet.


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Re: Gauntletts in Oregon. Where are their UK roots?
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 28 April 21 16:11 BST (UK) »
Whenever I need to find out where an ancestral family name originated, I look on familysearch and set the search years to the early years of Parish records.  If there are no results for the first 100 years after c1550  I enlarge the search period:   "from 1550 to 1700" .

As a gauntlet was a Normandy/French word for "glove" I expect the baptisms shown for this period were babies who had a lot of French DNA.

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Re: Gauntletts in Oregon. Where are their UK roots?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 28 April 21 17:09 BST (UK) »
Interestingly William Gauntlett on the 1900 census Unalaska, Southern Supervisors District, Alaska says he immigrated 1858 which might fit ..............
If William was born Scotland and Fanny in Australia and there mother Jane remarried after the death of William Sharp in Australia, John would be the next born in 1858 California............??

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Re: Gauntletts in Oregon. Where are their UK roots?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 28 April 21 17:49 BST (UK) »

John H Gauntlett
BIRTH ABT 1823 OR 1826 OR 1831 ??? • Scotland or England?
DEATH 7 MAY 1908 • Bandon, Coos, Oregon, USA

Find A Grave clearly shows 1823-1908, but other dates give
 his birth in 1822 and August 1826 in Hampshire England.
and church records showing he was buried from St. John's Episcopal Church (Bandon) by the Rev. William Horsfall, Thursday, May 10, 1906, age "84 years." DMS, Clerk of St. John's.


Find A Grave and the date of death on the stone in the photo are wrong. According to John's death notice in the newspaper, he died 8 May 1906.

Coquille Herald
May 09, 1906

Death: https://www.rootschat.com/links/01qkb/

Here's another obit for John Gauntlett in 1906, this time giving much more detail about his past and early days coming to America. The article states he was from Hampshire, England and a veteran of the Crimean War.

 The Evening Statesman
Walla Walla, Washington
15 May 1906, Tue  •  Page 3

Obit: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/76646340/john-gauntlett-death/

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Re: Gauntletts in Oregon. Where are their UK roots?
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 28 April 21 17:53 BST (UK) »
Perhaps?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M79X-9QK

1841 census; John Gauntlett, age 8, at Portsea, Hampshire
Probable Parents: William and Elizabeth

John Gauntlett - Christening Date 12 November 1832St Marys Portsea Hampshire.  Father William - Mother Elizabeth

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JWJC-NVD

1851 census Kingston Buckland Portsea Hampshire.  (No John in 1851)

HO107 Piece 1657 Folio 491 Page 18

William Gauntlett   55
Elizabeth Gauntlett   50
Jane Gauntlett   23
George Gauntlett   21
Elizabeth Gauntlett   16
Caroline Gauntlett   13
Emily Gauntlett   13
Henry Gauntlett   10
Alfred Gauntlett   8

1871 census Portsea, Hampshire, England.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:VFDJ-X57

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