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John Charles Le Hurst Wyndham - 1832 to 1886
« on: Wednesday 28 April 21 16:45 BST (UK) »
Hi

I am trying to find information on the above who served in India and was born in Kabul.

He died in Australia. (confirmed by certificate)

I can find no record of him (other than death) - the dates I have are from other peoples trees but have no source records.

I have a FindMyPast sub but can't find him on there.

Any info gratefully received.

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Re: John Charles Le Hurst Wyndham - 1832 to 1886
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 April 21 17:13 BST (UK) »
There is a probate record on familysearch naming him as a Hop Grower & also a Martha A Wyndham.
It also links to a partial tree.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JVQ3-3Z9


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Re: John Charles Le Hurst Wyndham - 1832 to 1886
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 April 21 17:23 BST (UK) »
There is a very long and current thread on this topic (97 posts) on The Genealogist forum.

https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?tid=10845

Contributors there don't see any connection with India or Afghanistan. He was born either in Ireland or in Berwick on Tweed, circa 1825. Father John was a private in the 2nd Battalion, Rifle Brigade.
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Re: John Charles Le Hurst Wyndham - 1832 to 1886
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 April 21 19:04 BST (UK) »
Hmmm that is very interesting because I clearly have a wrong connection if that is the case.

Kloumann - is that a UK probate because I couldn't find one?

Shaun J - I was trying to connect him to a possible father (Arthur Wyndham) but it looks like that can't be so.

I was already dubious as his birth date predates Arthurs marriage by 5-6 years.

I will look at the links you have posted - thank you very much.

Will also follow the Link to (father) John.

Thanks for all your help

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Re: John Charles Le Hurst Wyndham - 1832 to 1886
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 April 21 20:05 BST (UK) »
There are these on Anc*y

John Chas Le Hurst Wyndham
Death Registration Year:   1886
Death Registration Place:   Victoria, Australia
Spouse:   Martha Ann Williamson
Victoria, Australia, Death Index, 1836-1988

John C Le H Wyndham
Record Type:   Probates
Death 24 Sep 1886 Bairnsdale
Occupation:   Hop Grower
Grant Date:   12 May 1887
Grant:   Probate
Grant Recipient:   Martha A Wyndham

John C Le H Wyndham
Record Type:   Wills (Will)
Death Date:   24 Sep 1886
Death Place:   Bairnsdale
Occupation:   Hop Grower
Grant Date:   12 May 1887
Grant:   Probate
Grant Recipient:   Martha A Wyndham
I haven’t read through this but two names
Eldest Son Albion Thomas Wyndham age 22 his mother Martha Ann Wyndham
Victoria, Australia, Wills and Probate Records, 1841-2009

John Charles Le Hurst Wyndham
Death Age:   54
Late Residence:   Eagle Point Road
Burial Date:   26 Sep 1886
Cemetery:   Bairnsdale Cemetery
Section:   Church of England
Cemetery Location:   Bairnsdale, Victoria
Remarks:   Re-open
Register Number:   574
Occupation:   Farmer
Australia Cemetery Index, 1808-2007



Edgar Wyndham
Birth Registration Date:   1879
Birth Registration Place:   Victoria, Australia
Father:   John Charles L Wyndham
Mother Maiden Name:   Williamson

Le Hursty Andrew William Wyndham
Birth Registration Date:   1872
Birth Registration Place:   Victoria, Australia
Father:   John Charles Wyndham
Mother Maiden Name:   Williamson

Charles Wyndham
Birth Registration Date:   1870
Birth Registration Place:   Victoria, Australia
Father:   John Charles L Wyndham
Mother Maiden Name:   Williamson

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Emma Beatrice Wyndham
Birth Registration Date:   1868
Birth Registration Place:   Victoria, Australia
Father:   John Chas Lehor Wyndham
Mother Maiden Name:   Williams

Lilian Lena Wyndham
Birth Registration Date:   1877
Birth Registration Place:   Victoria, Australia
Father:   John Charles Le Wyndham
Mother Maiden Name:   Williams

not sure about these two

Edith Maud Wyndham
Birth Registration Date:   1875
Birth Registration Place:   Victoria, Australia
Father:   John Charles L Wyndham
Mother Maiden Name:   Wilson  ???

Martha Wyndham
Birth Registration Date:   1873
Birth Registration Place:   Victoria, Australia
Father:   John Charles Hu Wyndham
Mother Maiden Name:   Wilson

Victoria, Australia, Birth Index, 1837-1917


Edit to add

Martha Anne Williamson
Spouse Name:   Charles John Windham
Marriage Date:   26 Sep 1855
Marriage Place:   Tasmania
Registration Place:   Hobart, Tasmania
Registration Year:   1855
Registration Number:   462
Australia, Marriage Index, 1788-1950

























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Re: John Charles Le Hurst Wyndham - 1832 to 1886
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 28 April 21 21:44 BST (UK) »
Firstly thankyou so much Ladyhawk for the detailed info. - it does show that I have a completely false link between John and Arthur Wyndham.

Shaun J that is an amazing discussion going on over at The Genealogist and absolutely confirms the lack of connection between John and Arthur.

John certainly seems to have been a bit of a rogue doesn't he  :o

Thank you both for your very valuable input.

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Re: John Charles Le Hurst Wyndham - 1832 to 1886
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 28 April 21 21:49 BST (UK) »
I don’t know if this will be of any help to you

On the probate/will says John formerly a carpenter, there is a John Charles Wyndham who married in 1847 a Maria Oxley, his occupation joiner, his father John a plumber.  They are on 1851 census with dau Emily and a son age 6mths born Bolton name looks to read Allen possible baptism 1850 Bolton -  maybe a coincidence he has the same name of John Charles Le H Wyndham’s son

Albion Thomas Holloway Wyndham
Baptism 24 Nov 1850   Holy Trinity, Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire
Father:   John Charles Wyndham Mother:   Maria

WYNDHAM, ALBION   mmn OXLEY
GRO Reference: 1850  S Quarter in BOLTON UNION  Volume 21  Page 120   

Death 1858 Salford Albion Wyndham age 7

John is not with Maria Wyndham on 1861 census dau Charlotte born 1852, father John Charles occ joiner.
Maria is noted as widowed by 1871 she and Charlotte are in the household of Michael Cavannah
two more Wyndham children but I think Michael is their father
edit to add Michael Cavannah is a lodger with Maria on 1861c

WYNDHAM, MARIA  CAVANAGH   mmn OXLEY
GRO Reference: 1861  D Quarter in SALFORD  Volume 08D  Page 85   

WYNDHAM, RICHARD  CAVANAGH   mmn OXLEY
GRO Reference: 1863  S Quarter in SALFORD  Volume 08D  Page 83   

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Re: John Charles Le Hurst Wyndham - 1832 to 1886
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 28 April 21 21:51 BST (UK) »
DB10 was posting info. whilst red writing  :)
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Re: John Charles Le Hurst Wyndham - 1832 to 1886
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 28 April 21 22:08 BST (UK) »
Thankyou Ladyhawk for the additional info. gratefully received  ;D

I will close this thread off now as I have enough info to continue my enquiries.

Thanks so much for everybodies contribution.

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