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Thank you so much everyone.

Unfortunately rosie99, I don't have much more information. All I know is that John Turner was a pilot (I'm assuming in the navel sense) and that he had a daughter called Maria Ann in July 1839, Sunderland.

I found a baptism that fits for Maria Ann, in July 1839 and got Anne's forename from that.

I've tried looking for other children by this couple, but could not find any.

I found a few children between a John Turner and a Sarah, so I think that's either a different couple or the same John but a different wife to Ann.

That makes me think the marriage I have been looking at is not the correct one.

Thank you everyone for the help, I will keep looking.
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Re: Can I use a England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index reference to find a spouse?
« Reply #10 on: Friday 30 April 21 18:00 BST (UK) »
From the GRO index
TURNER, MARIA  ANN     Mothers maiden surname GILPATRICK 
1839  Sept Quarter in SUNDERLAND UNION  Volume 24  Page 272
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Re: Can I use a England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index reference to find a spouse?
« Reply #11 on: Friday 30 April 21 18:02 BST (UK) »
TURNER, ISABELLA       mmn GILPATRICK 
GRO Reference: 1841  Dec Quarter in SUNDERLAND UNION  Volume 24  Page 290

TURNER, SARAH       mmn GILPATRICK 
GRO Reference: 1845  June Quarter in SUNDERLAND UNION  Volume 24  Page 315

Baptisms have them with mother Sarah


 
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Re: Can I use a England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index reference to find a spouse?
« Reply #12 on: Friday 30 April 21 21:04 BST (UK) »
There is a marriage for a James Turner to a Jane Gilpatrick on 30 May 1824 at Monkwearmouth.

First witness is Elizth Gilpatrick, second witness is A Robson

Both were of the parish of Monkwearmouth.
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Re: Can I use a England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index reference to find a spouse?
« Reply #13 on: Friday 30 April 21 22:34 BST (UK) »
  Bear in mind that parsons or their clerks could sometimes get names, especially the mother's, wrong!
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Re: Can I use a England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index reference to find a spouse?
« Reply #14 on: Friday 30 April 21 22:41 BST (UK) »
Thank you everyone, I appreciate all the help.
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Re: Can I use a England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index reference to find a spouse?
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 01 May 21 08:01 BST (UK) »

Unfortunately rosie99, I don't have much more information. All I know is that John Turner was a pilot (I'm assuming in the navel sense) and that he had a daughter called Maria Ann in July 1839, Sunderland.

I found a baptism that fits for Maria Ann, in July 1839 and got Anne's forename from that.


Is this the baptism you mean
Maria Ann Turner bpt 26 Aug 1840 Bishop-Wearmouth, Durham
daughter of James & Anne Turner
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Re: Can I use a England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index reference to find a spouse?
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 01 May 21 08:52 BST (UK) »
There is also a transcription of this baptism in Durham baptisms. Father is named as James, a pilot and the address is given as Warren Street.

It is also worth having a look at Durham Records online which shows a death for a Maria Ann Turner in 1840 age 1 with the address Warren Street.

This shows an earlier birth and death of a Maria Ann Turner - parents James Turner a pilot and Sarah Gilbracken, address Warren Street. See link below.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D8Q9-Q9G?i=582&wc=9K5M-168%3A13618101%2C32548301%2C32664302&cc=1309819

And this is probably her burial

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6SC7-XF5?i=94&wc=9K59-6TP%3A13618101%2C32548301%2C32759601&cc=1309819


Perhaps have a look at these census images for a James Turner in Warren Street. A Maria is present in 1851 but not 1841. James has the occupation of waterman in 1841 and fisherman in 1851.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQBH-5TB
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M76V-SJJ

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGVM-TNZ


 The 1861 census may have James living in Silver Street. Newspapers show death of wife in 1851 and son James in 1854.

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Re: Can I use a England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index reference to find a spouse?
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 01 May 21 15:09 BST (UK) »

Perhaps have a look at these census images for a James Turner in Warren Street.

A Maria is present in 1851 but not 1841. James has the occupation of waterman in 1841 and fisherman in 1851.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGVM-TNZ


The 1851 census above has Sarah TURNER born c1804 Blyth Northumberland

Possible baptism for Sarah

Sarah GILPATRICK Birth 29 Jun 1803
Baptism 21 Aug 1803 Horton By Blyth, Northumberland
Father:    Henry Gilpatrick Mother:   Jane Hunter

some other entries parents names as above

Elizabeth Gilpatrick Birth 3 Feb 1799
Baptism 31 Mar 1799 Horton By Blyth, Northumberland

Elizabeth Gilpatrick Birth 3 Mar 1801
Baptism 31 May 1801 Whickham, Durham

Ann Gilpatrick Birth 4 Feb 1807
Baptism 26 Apr 1807 Horton By Blyth, Northumberland