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Re: Determining Parentage of Joseph Horton and Ellen E Challis
« Reply #9 on: Friday 30 April 21 17:42 BST (UK) »
I am also sorry that you are having a stressful day. 

The trouble with weddings in the 1900's is that not many are available to view without purchasing the certificate.  It does not help when you are trying to do it for someone else and you have to suggest an £11+  certificate is needed to progress.
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Re: Determining Parentage of Joseph Horton and Ellen E Challis
« Reply #10 on: Friday 30 April 21 17:46 BST (UK) »
You have Joseph’s birthdate from 1939 so that might give a year and quarter to start with bearing in mind if it was late in the year, you could be going to 1873.
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Re: Determining Parentage of Joseph Horton and Ellen E Challis
« Reply #11 on: Friday 30 April 21 18:00 BST (UK) »
I realise this is not exactly what you are looking for, but it gives some support to your theory about Ellen's parents.
GRO Index.births
Helen Challis. June Q 1896. Birmingham. Mmn  Broomhall.
Deaths. Helen Challis. June Q 1896. Birmingham. Age 0
Birth. Ellen Elizabeth Challis. Sep Q 1897. Birmingham. Mmn Broomhall.
 

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Re: Determining Parentage of Joseph Horton and Ellen E Challis
« Reply #12 on: Friday 30 April 21 18:02 BST (UK) »
Here is one to look at based on Oldbury as 1939.

1911 - Joseph Horton
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWWC-R6P
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Re: Determining Parentage of Joseph Horton and Ellen E Challis
« Reply #13 on: Friday 30 April 21 18:11 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for all this help guys, I have just ordered Joseph and Ellen's marriage certificate  from GRO.

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Re: Determining Parentage of Joseph Horton and Ellen E Challis
« Reply #14 on: Friday 30 April 21 18:16 BST (UK) »
Best thing to do  :)
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Re: Determining Parentage of Joseph Horton and Ellen E Challis
« Reply #15 on: Friday 30 April 21 18:30 BST (UK) »
I so agree -- it is actual evidence and with the father's names and hopefully their occupations, you should be able to find both Joseph and Ellen Elizabeth, with more confidence, on the census records.

Good luck with it.
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Re: Determining Parentage of Joseph Horton and Ellen E Challis
« Reply #16 on: Friday 30 April 21 20:41 BST (UK) »
The 1911 census for Joseph Horton posted leads to a marriage in 1900,
Joseph Horton and Annie Rock in West Bromwich and children from census born West Bromwich mmn Rock.
A tree on Ancestry has Annie dying 12th July 1921 at 20 Low Town, Oldbury which matches the 1939 address for Joseph and Ellen.
Tree owner seems to be grandson of Joseph and Annie.

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Re: Determining Parentage of Joseph Horton and Ellen E Challis
« Reply #17 on: Friday 30 April 21 20:50 BST (UK) »
@Comberton could you go back and find that link for me please?