Author Topic: Who are the parents?  (Read 943 times)

Offline isiwig

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
    • View Profile
Who are the parents?
« on: Saturday 01 May 21 19:34 BST (UK) »
Who are the parents of William Furness Shaw born c. 1855 in Kendal, Westmorland.  On the 1861 and 1871 census returns he is living with his grandparents in Kendal and by 1881 he is married.

His grandparents (Wiliam Furness Shaw -1799 & Dorcas Robinson – c. 1801)  had three daughters Margaret-c.1823, Mary-c.1825 and Betsy-c.1833 and one son Joseph-c.1829   Joseph married in 1849 so could possibly be the father but cannot tie this in.  Joseph and his wife have 3 children in the 1860’s so perhaps Wm. F. Shaw  may be an illegitimate child of one of the daughters of his grandparents and brought up by them. 

Any help would be much appreciated.  Thank you. Isi.
Gilbert, South Hill, Cornwall, Tavistock, Devon
Strike, South Hill & St. Cleer, Cornwall
Kitto, Stoke Climsland, Cornwall
Stephens, St. Ive, Cornwall
Gilbert, Burnley, Lancs.
Lomax, Darwen, Lancs.
Stevenson, Padiham, Lancs.
West, Over Darwen, and Burnley, Lancs.
Bury, Over Darwen
Henry, Toxteth Park, Liverpool and Warrenpoint, Ireland
McEvoys, Toxteth Park, Liverpool and Ireland
Radford, Tavistock, Devon

Offline Mabel Bagshawe

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,859
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: WHO ARE THE PARENTS?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 01 May 21 20:28 BST (UK) »
Margaret looks to have married John Allen in 1844 - on the marriage her father was William and in 1851 she's the right age and they have a daughter called Dorcas which seems to support this.

 Not sure about Mary

Betsy was at home in 1851, married in Q4 1855, so could possible be the mother. If the father wasn't William Wilkinson, the man she married, it would be quite possible young William didn't go to his household

Pity there's no obvious birth registration

Offline isiwig

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
    • View Profile
Re: WHO ARE THE PARENTS?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 02 May 21 12:48 BST (UK) »
Many thanks Mabel.  Looks like it could be an illegitimate birth especially as no obvious birth registration as you pointed out.  Thanks again for your time.
Gilbert, South Hill, Cornwall, Tavistock, Devon
Strike, South Hill & St. Cleer, Cornwall
Kitto, Stoke Climsland, Cornwall
Stephens, St. Ive, Cornwall
Gilbert, Burnley, Lancs.
Lomax, Darwen, Lancs.
Stevenson, Padiham, Lancs.
West, Over Darwen, and Burnley, Lancs.
Bury, Over Darwen
Henry, Toxteth Park, Liverpool and Warrenpoint, Ireland
McEvoys, Toxteth Park, Liverpool and Ireland
Radford, Tavistock, Devon

Offline Maid of Kent

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 352
    • View Profile
Re: WHO ARE THE PARENTS?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 02 May 21 15:58 BST (UK) »
Might be a father on his marriage lines,
Kidney,Kitney Detling Stockbury Chatham. Wenham Biddenden. Waltham.  Pemble Birchington/St Peters. Sibun Medway Chatham/Gravesend


Offline Sandblown

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 318
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: WHO ARE THE PARENTS?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 02 May 21 16:41 BST (UK) »
The only William Furness, recorded on Free BMD is a William Furness Hepworth. MMN Furness. Born 1856, Dewsbury, West Yorkshire.
Kirkham, Garlick, Worthington, Shaw, Bamber. Fylde Coast
Naylor/Nailor, Lyons, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire
Redfern. Cheshire/Derbyshire
LeFebvere, Lincolnshire

Offline isiwig

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
    • View Profile
Re: WHO ARE THE PARENTS?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 02 May 21 18:17 BST (UK) »
Thank you  Maid of Kent and Sandblown.  Had not thought of the info on the marriage certificate which might reveal the father of the bride and groom.

The record of the marriage is not on FreeBMD but is on Findmypast.

Thank you all. 
Gilbert, South Hill, Cornwall, Tavistock, Devon
Strike, South Hill & St. Cleer, Cornwall
Kitto, Stoke Climsland, Cornwall
Stephens, St. Ive, Cornwall
Gilbert, Burnley, Lancs.
Lomax, Darwen, Lancs.
Stevenson, Padiham, Lancs.
West, Over Darwen, and Burnley, Lancs.
Bury, Over Darwen
Henry, Toxteth Park, Liverpool and Warrenpoint, Ireland
McEvoys, Toxteth Park, Liverpool and Ireland
Radford, Tavistock, Devon

Offline softly softly

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,136
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: WHO ARE THE PARENTS?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 02 May 21 18:43 BST (UK) »
taken off freebmd


Marriages Dec 1878   

DIXON    Mary Jane                        Kendal    10b   1053    
GRAHAM    Francis                        Kendal    10b   1053    
Shaw    William Furness        Kendal    10b   1053    
YOUNG    Sarah Jane                Kendal    10b   1053    

John

Offline isiwig

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
    • View Profile
Re: WHO ARE THE PARENTS?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 02 May 21 18:52 BST (UK) »
Yes that's the one - thank you John - will send for the cert.
Gilbert, South Hill, Cornwall, Tavistock, Devon
Strike, South Hill & St. Cleer, Cornwall
Kitto, Stoke Climsland, Cornwall
Stephens, St. Ive, Cornwall
Gilbert, Burnley, Lancs.
Lomax, Darwen, Lancs.
Stevenson, Padiham, Lancs.
West, Over Darwen, and Burnley, Lancs.
Bury, Over Darwen
Henry, Toxteth Park, Liverpool and Warrenpoint, Ireland
McEvoys, Toxteth Park, Liverpool and Ireland
Radford, Tavistock, Devon