Edward McGrath & Rose Ann McGurk

[davieboy]

Hi

I'm trying to find a marriage (probably in Ireland) for Edward McGrath & Rose Ann McGurk. Both were born at the turn on the 1800s and had a daughter in the 1830s so i'm guessing its around 1820-1835ish.

Any help would be appreciated

[BallyaltikilliganG]

I have a method using the tithe Applotment Book records, which are sadly split for genealogical work. I have made an  alphabetical index of last name entries for the 6 counties based on the parish listing by parish made by the Irish Genealogy Hub website which sometimes throws up both names of a later marriage existing in the same parish the odds of finding the two names in the same townland are even more striking . but could be spelt McGra
McGrath, Ed.-Townland: Kernan Year: 1834-       Tullylish-Down
McGrath, Ed.-Townland: Miltown Year: 1834-      Clonallan-Down
McGrath, Edward-Townland: Ballynaris Year: 1834-   Dromore-Down
McGrath, Edwd.-- Townland: Drumkee Year: 1825-   Killyman-Tyrone
McGrath, Edwd.-T: Dromore Y: 1834-         Dromore-Tyrone
McGrath, Edwd.-Townland: Ballymagaghran Year: 1832-Belleek-Fermanagh
McGrath, Edwd.-Townland: Kernan Year: 1834-   Tullylish-Down
McGrath, Eliz.-Townland: Portaferry Gardens Year: 1827-Ballyphilip- Down
mcgurk 160 and mcguirk17 entries had no match of parish in 6 counties with 177 entries in total
I didn’t check for McGra spelling

 so you could try the same method forthe 26 counties  covered by the National Archives Dublin
using
 eg
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=mcGuirk&firstname=&county=&parish=&townland=&search=Search
McGuirk entries 28
McGurk entries75
McGrath, 1429 entries

You would need to copy the entries for each ten entries per page for each name onto a spreadsheet and eventually sort by county sort by county, finally only checking any further by both names in a county, then refining that to by parish and hopefully by townland and it mat still not be the true answer I think it has worked for about 20 missing locations in Ireland but even the record isn’t complete in itself, if you have two scarce names its much easier. I cant spare the time to do it for you. it’s a last resort for you. nevertheless i leave it with you.

[davieboy]

Thanks for taking the time to respond.


You are correct about the spelling and the variants as searching for McGrath, McGra or even McGraw could take an age.

[heywood]

What is the daughter’s name?
Where was she born?
Where did the family live  - if indeed they did marry in Ireland?

[davieboy]

The daughters name was Sarah McGrath / McGraw. She married William Montgomery (I dont know where) but she died in 1972 in Dundee. She is listed on one of the census as being born in Ireland

[scotmum]

Did she make news headlines dying in 1972, given you say she was born in 1830s (or did you mean she died 1872)?

 
 

[davieboy]

haha  good spot

[scotmum]

Further confusion....Sarah Montgomery nee McGrath mmn McGurk, is recorded in SP death index as 56 when she died in 1872.

MONTGOMERY
SARAH
56
MCGURK
1872
282/3 582
St Clement

My calculator suggests 1872-56 = 1816 (so does my head, but I thought I would make certain).

Why do you think she was born c1830s? Does actual death record show a different age than 56?

[scotmum]

Did she live at 2, James Street, Dundee, in 1871? If yes, birth year on census is even earlier at 1810 (with 1811 on the 1861 and 1851).