Merchant Navy Research help

[HMac]

Just to also add that Royal Naval Reservists usually signed on for 5 years. James Brown enlisted on 6.4.1903 and his service number was 6264P - this record has not survived or it is not available online.

He re-enrolled for a further 5 years and his service number was 673Y - this is available online here:
BT 377/7/102526 - https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D8560793 - his service number has been incorrectly transcribed as T it should be Y.

He enrolled for another 5 years and his service number was 1414U as I previously mentioned in my last.
Some important addresses. His address is shown as 44 Market Street Aberdeen.
Another address has Eliza as NoK at 27 Queens Rd, Luton, Kent [I think] - maybe they mean something to you.

Regards
Hugh

[seaweed]

Nice work Hugh,
Have you any ideas as to his previous ship. I have it as KIRKBY o/n 98517. If so Her 1914 logbooks
are at Kew in BT165/655
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1732514
and her crew agreements at MHA
https://mha.mun.ca/mha/holdings/viewcombinedcrews.php?Official_No=98517

regards
SW

[HMac]

That's correct SW. He joins her 4.3.1914 at South Shields and is discharged 15.5.1914 at Cardiff.
KIRKBY was torpedoed and sunk by U-38 on the 17th August 1915.
Regards
Hugh

[HMac]

James Brown, the subject of this thread, has three cards in the Fourth Rgister of Seamen - originals held at Southampton City Archives with copies at TNA Kew and FindMyPast. These cards relate to the same man as SW and I have pointed to in our respective posts. Any questions please feel free.

First name(s)   James
Last name   Brown
Event year   1921
Birth year   1872
Birth place   Aberdeen
Birth county/country   Aberdeenshire
Birth date   ? ? 1872
Discharge number   384622
Card type   CR1
Archive   
The National Archives
Series   BT349
Date range   1921-1941
Record set   Britain, Merchant Seamen, 1918-1941
Category   Education & work
Subcategory   Merchant Navy & Maritime
Collections from   Great Britain, UK None

Regards
Hugh

[littlefacey]

YOU GUYS ARE AMAZING!!!!!

Thank you so much! I've been hunting this guy for so so long!!

Honestly cant thank you all enough!

[littlefacey]

A long shot. I found  a  James Brown age 41, born Aberdeen in a 1914/15 Crew Agreement of the ship  LUCILINE official number 110160.

https://1915crewlists.rmg.co.uk/document/189709#&gid=1&pid=3
Number 25 on the crew agreement. Page 6

You will note that number 26 is an R Brown age 38 also born in Aberdeen. Both give the same address.
Brothers?
Unfortunately, the writting is not the best but the signature of James Brown is very clear.
May be worth following up.

Could anyone help me locate information on R Brown? Could possibly be Robert?

[littlefacey]

I may have found his brother!? Robert James Brown born to Robert & Jane Brown in Aberdeen and also lived at 31 Ormande street

Odd that James was his middle name? Anyway can help decipher this? Seems like he was able to join?

[HMac]

Could anyone help me locate information on R Brown? Could possibly be Robert?

The crew list for LUCILINE official number 110160 shows a previous ship as NEILROSE official number 124124.

I see him also aboard WAVERLEY official number 112442 no. #21 on the articles of agreement here:
https://1915crewlists.rmg.co.uk/document/191009 previous ship noted as BULGARIAN.

He is also shown as being aboard HUELVA official number 138995, previous ship WAVERLEY.
His age seems to have gone up by about 3 years but that is not uncommon - the address is still 31 Ormonde St in South Shields.

A search of the ship's official logbook and crew agreements may give up more information on him.
Regards
Hugh

[HMac]

Anyway can help decipher this? Seems like he was able to join?

Much of it is RNR jargon and doesn't add much.
R.J. Brown is enrolled in the Trawler Section RNR on 22 January 1916. On the face of it he appears to have served for about 7 months when Commander in Chief The 'Nore' reports on 11 May 1916 that he is to be 'removed from strength' as he is suffering from [what looks to me like] 'general paralysis of the insane". He was invalided to RN Hospital Chatham on 9 May 1916. 
He was awarded the British War Medal and Victory Medal.
Regards
Hugh